ste 2712 Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 hi all, i was given a bag full of cartridges by a friend that had found them in a house clearance. looking through them noticed a paper cartridge that looks quite old il try describe it best i can, its a dark orange 12g eley grand prix cartridge loaded with nobel smokeless powder and made in great britain is what it reads around the case! on the brass is written eley-kynoch with a ici stamp and the top is rolled with 5 written on it! just intrigued to know a bit more about it cheers ste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Mmmm send them to me they will need testing for sure!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 I have some similar, mine have a 6 on them so they must be better! I would think they are an ounce of the shot size in the circle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 hi all, i was given a bag full of cartridges by a friend that had found them in a house clearance. looking through them noticed a paper cartridge that looks quite old il try describe it best i can, its a dark orange 12g eley grand prix cartridge loaded with nobel smokeless powder and made in great britain is what it reads around the case! on the brass is written eley-kynoch with a ici stamp and the top is rolled with 5 written on it! just intrigued to know a bit more about it cheers ste Eley Kynoch, were part of ICI (Imperial Chemical Industries), They are known as Eley Hawke today. The rolled top with "5" stamped on it will indicate that the cartridge is loaded with 5 shot. Eley still make Grand Prix, which were a 1,1/16 oz load (30g). Nobel smokeless powder was once a staple reloading power with grades of fast (82(?)) and slow (80(?)). The numbers are right, I just cant remember which way round they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste 2712 Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 cheers for the replys! any idea what sort of age they are ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 I have some of the same in BB given by an old farmer years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) Pre 1964. (If the cap/primer is copper, the cartridge goes back to 1930/50s) After 1964, the ICI was omitted and only one '12' stamped. The case would be a 2 9/16" length for strict 2 1/2" chambers and for RTO. The powder would not be the 80 series but either 60 series or earlier 1,2 and 4. If earlier it could be 'Smokeless Diamond' powder, a double-base dark grey disc propellant. Edited August 7, 2011 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste 2712 Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Pre 1964. (If the cap/primer is copper, the cartridge goes back to 1930/50s) After 1964, the ICI was omitted and only one '12' stamped. The case would be a 2 9/16" length for strict 2 1/2" chambers and for RTO. The powder would not be the 80 series but either 60 series or earlier 1,2 and 4. If earlier it could be 'Smokeless Diamond' powder, a double-base dark grey disc propellant. thanks for the info , so if it is around 30's-50's would it be worth much or am i better shooting it next time im out?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 thanks for the info , so if it is around 30's-50's would it be worth much or am i better shooting it next time im out?? There's always a bloke or two ready to purchase! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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