Wildfowler12 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) Quick one guys, can I shoot high perornance steel shot size no.1 through 1/2 choke? Obv my gun is steel proofed, and I thought you can put steel loads through no tighter than 1/2 choke but if the shot size exceeds 4.0mm then you can only use 1/4 choke?? Obv shot size 1 is a little larger than 4mm so would it be daft to push it through half choke? Edited August 12, 2011 by Wildfowler69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 i wouldnt, unless it is a super steel regulated one, just for steel shot, chokes are made just for steel shot. now, small steel can be put through chokes tighter than 1/2. but, big shot really should be shot in more open chokes. for the steel 1 you have i`d say use cyl, see what pattern you get then use skeet, see what pattern you get, then 1/4 see what pattern is produced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Thanks for the advice, I'll try some patterning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 the maxus is rated for 3/4 choke with small steel, and 1/2 with large/high speed steel If it's not a dedicated wildfowling gun, stick to 1/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 It's my Webley 812, 3' chambered. Steel shot proofed. I use it only for fowling. Usually use bismuth at the geese but 50carts just cost me £60 so im hoping to source some suitable steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 It's my Webley 812, 3' chambered. Steel shot proofed. I use it only for fowling. Usually use bismuth at the geese but 50carts just cost me £60 so im hoping to source some suitable steel. I have the 912, 3". I believe the chokes are the same as on the 8 series. I use cyl and 1/4. The webley chokes don't appear to be nearly as strong as the inv+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 I may have to invest in a 1/4 choke then! Shot size 1 is English size BB right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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poontang Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 If I remember rightly the Webley 810/812 are proofed for high performance steel, and carry the fleur de lys proof mark? If that's the case you'll be fine using #1's through 1/2 choke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Yeah they do bear the fleur de lys and the steel shot mark, but I thought it was advisable to use 1/4 choke when steel shot size over 4mm is used? Maybe it's just because it patterns better at 1/4 choke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziplex Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I always thought if the gun was proofed for steel shot you could use up to 1/2 choke, irrespective of shot size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I put steel shot size no 1 through 1/2 choke with no issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Steel proofed of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) Just rang BASC, they said it's fine but the reason most people avoid using 1/2 choke with large steel shot sizes (#3 and larger) is because it patterns poorly! I've seen some balistic pictures online and there appears to be truth in it. Patterns are much better at 1/4 choke. Guess the best way to find out is to pattern test. Edited August 13, 2011 by Wildfowler69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 now, small steel can be put through chokes tighter than 1/2. but, big shot really should be shot in more open chokes. How does that work then? Surely it doesn't matter what size the shot is. If it's contained in a wad until it leaves the barrel it's still a 'lump' of steel travelling through the choke constriction irrespective of individual shot size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 I have patterned some big steel and the patterns were **** in anything other than cylinder choke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 How does that work then? Surely it doesn't matter what size the shot is. If it's contained in a wad until it leaves the barrel it's still a 'lump' of steel travelling through the choke constriction irrespective of individual shot size. different cip regulations for different gauges. #6 steel is classed as large when in 20 gauge, but not with the 12 gauge. the cip regulates this. i do understand steel is steel, but big shotsizes really are harsh on a wad and barrel. smaller flows better through forcing cone and choke restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 It`s to do with a phenomenon, either real or theoretical, called "bridging". This has the potential to occur where large shot pellets enter the choke constriction, but, whereas lead is malleable and can deform, and small steel shot although hard,can still "move" within the shot column,large hard steel pellets can neither move nor deform and may form a solid bridge which will damage chokes and cause ring bulging. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 and cause ring bulging. There must have been some steel shot in my dinner last night then :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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