Si-Bore Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I was out shooting yesterday and thought I would get some more footage of the longer shots. In this clip the rabbit is hit with the corrected follow up shot. Not as ideal as a smashed over rabbit but none-the-less the bullet strikes the kill-zone but with limited expansion only (which is unusual for these bullets) allowing the rabbit to run 20 yards before rolling over dead (confirmed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 so did it take 10-15 minutes to get over there to confirm the fatality, not sure its the best example of your work but there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-Bore Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 It was laid dead where it stopped mate. 32x mag scope is perfect viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I couldn't really hear how far it was as the wind covers the sound but that must be around 880 yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 The thing is... When I first saw your long range videos, I was impressed - Finally, someone posting some video evidence of a long range kill... However, you've posted 9 videos in as many days and it's kind of killed the impressiveness of the shooting. I can appreciate you're trying to show your skills, but I feel that you'd get a much better response if those videos were posted with a bit of a gap between each one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 The thing is... When I first saw your long range videos, I was impressed - Finally, someone posting some video evidence of a long range kill... However, you've posted 9 videos in as many days and it's kind of killed the impressiveness of the shooting. I can appreciate you're trying to show your skills, but I feel that you'd get a much better response if those videos were posted with a bit of a gap between each one. same here really I was impressed till this one and just thought why post it. It clearly shows you can wound at that range and there is **** all you can do about it. You can hear how windy it is personally I think paper would make a more ethical target if you are going to have runners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) I was out shooting yesterday and thought I would get some more footage of the longer shots. In this clip the rabbit is hit with the corrected follow up shot. Not as ideal as a smashed over rabbit but none-the-less the bullet strikes the kill-zone but with limited expansion only (which is unusual for these bullets) allowing the rabbit to run 20 yards before rolling over dead (confirmed). outstanding shooting,yes the rabbit did run,but they also run when hit with a 22 rimmy at 60 yards then fall over and die people who atually shoot will understand this,unlike the google armchair shooters that will rip this one to pieces well done Edited August 15, 2011 by Ackley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I think he might have posted it as I asked him to get one over 700 yards. I thought everyone got runners no matter what range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 the different thing is 60 yards you pop over to it and despatch it. Its a cracking illustration of the long range fanatics not giving a toss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 the different thing is 60 yards you pop over to it and despatch it. Its a cracking illustration of the long range fanatics not giving a toss not if its gone into cover mate or down a hole,you can pick holes as much as you like 60 yards or 600 yards wounding can and will happen,actually go out and shoot enough you will find out. its a bold sweeping statement that long range shooters "dont give a toss" I could say the same about some short range shooters I have met. the long range shooter will take all the condition into account and only fire if there right whilst the opertunist 60 yard shooter will take the shot no matter what so whats the difference here ?? what happens if the game shooter pricks a pheasent,does he put his gun away leave the drive and look for it no it may get pick but 99% of the time its gone too far back and will eventually fall out the tree and die. the long range shooter uses a caliber carrying enough energy to kill an animal no matter where its hit (not applicable to deer)as the video shows,hit perfectly and still ran "it happens at any range" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 but why post it online its a cracking example of what not to show. Shows the shooter in a poor light and the entire sport, Game shooting you put a dog on runners or lets say we do but then we do have a good team out. The first shot was a miss the second a wounding shot come on defend it all you like but its target plinking not something any ethical hunter does on living quarry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 but why post it online its a cracking example of what not to show. Shows the shooter in a poor light and the entire sport, Game shooting you put a dog on runners or lets say we do but then we do have a good team out. The first shot was a miss the second a wounding shot come on defend it all you like but its target plinking not something any ethical hunter does on living quarry. yes the first shot was a miss,so what havnt you ever missed with a rifle,I have plenty of times.then re adjusted and shot again. have you ever thought the rabbit was running on adreliaine(spelling) as it had just been shot at,it fell over dead after a short run,just like a gamne bird would do if not hit in the pattern or taken too high it shows the shooter to be a very skillfull shot to miss then adjust to make the hit. you forget more live animals are missed or wounded close quarter than any at long range,so where does your ethics come into it,maybe you shouldnt be shooting live animals if you think its all rosey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) rabbits running on adrenalin I've heard it all now, you were talking sense now its a load of male plums love to know where the facts on all these close range misses come from as that does indeed sound like a classic case of jackanory Edited August 15, 2011 by al4x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I think it shows a accurate account of how things really are out in the field at any range. Sometimes you miss, sometimes you get runners. I have missed at 20 yards before now and if I did get a close runner I for one would like to see anyone try and keep up with it to dispatch it untill it went down wherever that may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) I think it shows a accurate account of how things really are out in the field at any range. Sometimes you miss, sometimes you get runners. I have missed at 20 yards before now and if I did get a close runner I for one would like to see anyone try and keep up with it to dispatch it untill it went down wherever that may be. exactly,real life situations not fairy stories from a shooting magazine wheres theres alwaya a happy ending Alex we go out to kill things,**** sometimes happens,we have to deal with it,if you cant deal with dont shoot,its that simple Edited August 15, 2011 by Ackley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 you're talking out of your backside ackley again, how do you deal with a rabbit half a mile away, simple answer is you can't so you leave it thats not sporting its not shooting in "the real world" its not giving a toss about your quarry and treating them like an enhanced paper target. What it proves is its possible to only wound small quarry with a centrefire. rabbits don't run on adrenalin the shooter isn't a bigger man for testing himself on live quarry at those distances. its the low side of the sport and sadly one who is proud of his achievements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Ironically, when a rabbit gets a rush of adrenaline, it freezes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Ironically, when a rabbit gets a rush of adrenaline, it freezes Not when its just had its heart and lungs knocked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 you're talking out of your backside ackley again, how do you deal with a rabbit half a mile away, simple answer is you can't so you leave it thats not sporting its not shooting in "the real world" its not giving a toss about your quarry and treating them like an enhanced paper target. What it proves is its possible to only wound small quarry with a centrefire. rabbits don't run on adrenalin the shooter isn't a bigger man for testing himself on live quarry at those distances. its the low side of the sport and sadly one who is proud of his achievements Oh talking out of my backside,I dont think so.do you even shoot mate ?? obvioulsy you have never seen an animal run on adrenalin with a bullet through its vitals,as I said this is the real world not stories in airgun world I would be very proud of a 880 yard calculated shot,now you bring "not sporting" into this,I asked someone once what this exaclty ment,he couldnt answer it either,so lets hear your words of wisdom on the subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 a rabbit hit in the vitals with a centrefire does not run on adrenalin. I've heard some rubbish on here and that is up with the best of it. However take a leg off or shoot it in the backside I can see it running. I mean how do you even send a dog for it unless you have one that likes half mile retrieves. As someone once said you can't educate pork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) a rabbit hit in the vitals with a centrefire does not run on adrenalin. I've heard some rubbish on here and that is up with the best of it. However take a leg off or shoot it in the backside I can see it running. I mean how do you even send a dog for it unless you have one that likes half mile retrieves. As someone once said you can't educate pork you obvioulsy DIDNT read the OP thread properly did you go back to the begining and take a proper read especially the part about the bullet not opening up as usual,again shoot enough and you may find this happening Mmmmmmmmmmm maybe with a pencil size hole through its ribs it is possable for a rabbit to run on adrelalin untill its bleeds out of course which obvioulsy this one did educate pork,damm right you have no idea and your showing your very inexperienced when it comes to a rifle and bullets Edited August 15, 2011 by Ackley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I would be very proud of a 880 yard calculated shot,now you bring "not sporting" into this,I asked someone once what this exaclty ment,he couldnt answer it either,so lets hear your words of wisdom on the subject So would I but keep it to the range, IMO using rabbits as free long range targets is of no benefit to anyone, what the video doesnt show is any reference, If you want to shoot at super long range take it to a range or set up some targets. Clays are cheap show visible hits and if you want to test yourself go smaller. I can see the temptation to the shooter accurate rifle good position good backstop using quality glass and spot a rabbit at long range, but there is no need for it it's not effective pest control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 well sonny the fact he seems to use A max might partly explain it, then you have a 6.5mm hole through it which is a fair size on a rabbit even a straight hole no expansion rabbits don't take a while to "bleed out" if its usual behaviour from a chest shot rabbit which you seem to imply there is something seriously wrong and I'm not sure whether that is just equipment or your ethics if you reckon that's ok we seem to have the excuses normally reserved for deer being trotted out here and yes if it was a large Sika that had run I would be fully in agreement it does happen but a one kilo rabbit hit with a 6.5 round please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) well sonny the fact he seems to use A max might partly explain it, then you have a 6.5mm hole through it which is a fair size on a rabbit even a straight hole no expansion rabbits don't take a while to "bleed out" if its usual behaviour from a chest shot rabbit which you seem to imply there is something seriously wrong and I'm not sure whether that is just equipment or your ethics if you reckon that's ok we seem to have the excuses normally reserved for deer being trotted out here and yes if it was a large Sika that had run I would be fully in agreement it does happen but a one kilo rabbit hit with a 6.5 round please. showing your very little in experience again in ballistics and bullets,animals behave in very strange ways the more you shoot the stranger it gets,you should get out more and see it in real timer and not from the cover of a magazine one question my freind how long have you been shooting Edited August 15, 2011 by Ackley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 about 25 years or there abouts. So only a beginner there are two issues here firstly the long range shooting one and the second the need to wave ones willy about a half mile shot that went wrong. The first is one thing the second is just not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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