ChrisAsh Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Looking to buy a non ejector Yildiz 410 over under and wondering how easy the spent cartridges are to remove from the gun I have tried a 12gauge to 410 converter and using Lyalvale 2.5" 14gram no 7 and eley magnum 3" no6 that the stuck in the converter after firing but were loose in the converter prior to shooting Hence question as I want to use gun for skeet and dont want to find out after I have brought the gun and ejectors are quite a bit more in cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted October 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Just bumping, as need to check before I buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Brian Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Not sure how much help this is but (for what it is worth) I have a yildiz side by side .410 non ejector. The carts are reasonably loose in the chamber pre firing and do expand on firing as most shell cases will. The cartridge extractor has worked fine on my gun and I haven't had any trouble removing shells (getting a hit with my aim is another matter entirely). I have put Rio and Eley 2.5 inch and Eley 3 inch through it. Hope this helps Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted October 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Not sure how much help this is but (for what it is worth) I have a yildiz side by side .410 non ejector. The carts are reasonably loose in the chamber pre firing and do expand on firing as most shell cases will. The cartridge extractor has worked fine on my gun and I haven't had any trouble removing shells (getting a hit with my aim is another matter entirely). I have put Rio and Eley 2.5 inch and Eley 3 inch through it. Hope this helps Brian Hi Brian Can you explain what you mean by Cartridge Extractor as I have not heard of this as you say you have a non ejector. My other gun has extractors. My worry is that small cartridges distort more when fired especially 410 and could be hard to remove unless enough cut away to get finger tips around Thanks for replying Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bull Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 they may be a little tight after fitting but i dont think it would be much of a prblem realy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Extractors look like ejectors, but all they do is simple lifet the head of the shell clear of the barrel upon opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Thanks to all,This is the first gun I have brought over the internet which as you know is not the same as touchy feely, think I will have to lengthen it by half an inch but from the photo the wood looks really nice Happy shooting to you all, and you are welcome to come down to Gt Yarmouth and watch a idiot try and hit a clay with a 410, should be entertaing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Make sure the gun has an appropriate chamber length to suit the cartridge. Some guns are so tough that they will fire a 3 inch magnum for a while before exploding but the empty shells are tough to get out due to the cartridge opening into the barrel and not the chamber. The Webley Scott bolt action single 410 comes to mind. The problem is common with 410s though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Brian Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Hi Chris Sorry for not replying earlier- bit of an internet issue! I think Can't hit rabbitts has probably allready described it well enough but I will add my bit. The extractor is a simple device that is machined to complete the mouth of the chamber so that the shell head sits on it when the gun is closed just like an ejector. The difference is that once fired the ejector will release at a predetermined stage of opening to clear the face of the action with the spent shell. The extractor slowly rises as the gun is opened so that you can get your fingers on the head and easily remove the shell. Extractors were around long before the ejector (certainly in my price bracket at least)and generaly are very reliable unless they are knocked or get worn (with a lot of use). I prefer non ejectors as I spend more time shooting and less time hunting around on the ground for empties (a lot of threads have been devoted to this debate). From your original post it sounds as though the extractor on the conversion tube you were using wasn't working properly. Hope this helps you in your choice. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Thanks Brian and all The conversion tube went back to the USA earlier this week with a full refund apart from the dreaded vat i had to pay. It seems that it works very well on Winchester cartridges in the states as they are very strong cases that do not distort very much, but looking at Just-Cartridges at £20.00 per box, I thought they were a touch to expensive and probably imported for the likes of premier league footballers. All the gun-shops advertising this gun just state non ejector and I imagined broken finger nails and frustration, but guess I was wrong. Never felt entirely happy about 410 in a 12g but just looking for a bit of fun, but now feel a proper 410 is the way to go so should get mine next week when owner comes back off holiday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) You will love it Chris. I have one. No problem with it being a non ejector, mine isn't and as said above you don't have to hunt for the shells afterwards Being Turkish, the wood will probably be gorgeous. It a very lively gun and a joy to use. I shot with Bluebarrels on a pheasant flush and duck flush at a recent clay shoot. Like you, I just wanted some fun. It will break every clay you point it at, every bit as good as a 12. I think you will be quite shocked at what a capable gun it is Enjoy your new toy Edited October 6, 2011 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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