il cacciatore Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Might be a kind of stupid question but I've seen old or even antique pistols for sale on some UK websites. Were these not banned when the Firearms Act 1997 came into force? They often say that no FAC is required so this means they are deacts? Please explain. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 I think you can have a collectors licence or something? but I doubt they will sell you a genuine pistol in working condition without FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted May 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 So these are being sold between museums then? The most recent one I seen for sale was on the gun trader website under the section Pistols (no licence). Looks really old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 They may be de-acs, you can own a black powder pistol on an FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussexboy Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 I've seen those black powder pistols being fired at our range. You have to wait 5 minutes for the smoke to clear to see if you have hit what you were aiming at. Huge bang though, gives you a big cheesy grin every time it goes off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 So a bit like this then?? And that was only one shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 I have shot .44 black powder in my local club. Its really fun if you have a ventilation fan, it clear the smoke/lead dust, that you shouldnt breathe in anyway. Put the powder charge in, then wadding (rice powder) squidge a ball into the chamber, smother the whole lot in grease, put a primer cap on the back and your good to go. A lot off mess, and the gun needs a lot of cleaning maintainance. Fun, but I wouldnt have one for all the work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 The one in the picture is my mates, you can fire off six shots quite quickly and it is fairy accurate, but after that you can't see bloody thing! As you say Hunter, good fun, but I am glad he owns it and not me, as it has to stripped and bolied after each outing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted May 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Those pistols I seen were revolvers. I dont believe them to be deacts; after reading the firearms (amendment) act 1997 I came to the conclusion that as long as they were manufactured before 1st of January 1919 and not of a caliber that is deemed 'readily available' - such as .22rf, 9mm parabelum, .45 etc. - then you may be permitted to own one for its historic value or novelty. So because you cant buy ammunition for them; they are the equivalent of a very expensive paper weight. I think thats how the law stands but I stand to be corrected... Black powder pistols would be fun, but because of all the hassel in reloading them I think I would get bored very quickly indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 By the way, is that rosehip wine in your picture? looks like somthing I had a while ago.. very tasy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted May 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Its my current batch of homebrew. I'm making a batch of light ale. Sweet, wonderful, beautiful ale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Im an Ale fan too Best of luck with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben D Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 I've got a black powder 12b atm and it's seriously cool. Ben - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin.45 Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Those pistols I seen were revolvers. I dont believe them to be deacts; after reading the firearms (amendment) act 1997 I came to the conclusion that as long as they were manufactured before 1st of January 1919 and not of a caliber that is deemed 'readily available' - such as .22rf, 9mm parabelum, .45 etc. - then you may be permitted to own one for its historic value or novelty. So because you cant buy ammunition for them; they are the equivalent of a very expensive paper weight. I think thats how the law stands but I stand to be corrected... Black powder pistols would be fun, but because of all the hassel in reloading them I think I would get bored very quickly indeed. You have hit the nail on the head and that's how it stands. I have a couple of club members who collect antique cartridge revolvers mainly in .455. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted May 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Interesting. What about antique rifles? I've seen a couple on gun trader saying that no licence is required and that they are "good shooters" ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin.45 Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Interesting. What about antique rifles? I've seen a couple on gun trader saying that no licence is required and that they are "good shooters" ?. No licence required again based on age and cal but if the weapon is used then you must have an FAC and it must be on your ticket. If your caught without the correct docs it's 5 years+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted May 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Thanks very much for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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