Vipa Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 The US 2nd amendment 'right' to bear arms doesn't allow convicted felons (and other persons deemed unsuitable) the right to possess firearms. Rights are subjective, not absolute. The only difference between the 'right' we have to own a shotgun and the US 2nd amendment is that you have to do far less in this country to have that right removed. The wording of Section 2 of the 1968 Firearms Act infers the right as it states the Chief Constable shall issue a shotgun certificate unless . . . This is why i thought it would be such a tragedy if certification was all brought in line with current Section 1 controls, Section 2 is the last remaining glimmer of a right to possess guns in this country ATB Mark I can live with that explanation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I'm pretty sure that's the same set of rules that say it's ok to kill a Welshman within the main city walls of York... as long as it's with a bow.... Go and try it.... see how your 'rights' stand up!!! I do wish people wouldn't quote 1,000 year old texts claiming they apply in the 21st century. Perhaps we should all go and hand ourselves in to the Police for not performing our legal duty of an hours longbow practice after church on a Sunday... In the UK you have both common law, civil law and criminal law....3 different types of law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) In the UK you have both common law, civil law and criminal law....3 different types of law Your forgetting Shariah (not sure of spelling) law..........ohh and **** Law blimey, cant say **** :yp: aww well wet clump of earth/soil Edited December 8, 2011 by TaxiDriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) Kyska saidd can you imagine the mess on the streets with the right to 'bear arms' in the uk up until 1940 odd you could, not many if any" mess on the streets "where recorded. Edited December 8, 2011 by markbivvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 can you imagine the mess on the streets with the right to 'bear arms' in the UK, up until 1940 odd you could, not many if any" mess on the streets "where recorded. I don't know... There does seem to be this dim view of the British public and thier mental ability to be armed. It's only an education issue. I know there are more murders and deaths attributable to firearms in the USA but then, thier population is SIGNIFICANTLY larger than ours, proportionately the rates aren't night and day beyond most other countries in the world. There is this feeling that, if the UK were afforded the same freedoms as the US, then every 'mutha' would be armed to the teeth and bloodbaths would ensue in the middle of the shopping centre because little johnny's pushchair ran over Mr Jones of 59 Acacia Avenue's foot! In reality, it just wouldn't happen, most of the population have no interest in guns whatsoever (another symptom of media hype and lack of education) and... ok... we would probably see gangs of thugs armed and causing misery but that on't be with legally held guns and will be exactly the same groups who do that now with illegal guns.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 gangs of killers would not be worrying about if they have a licence only the general public would care about that when trying to own a gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangled99 Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 I don't know... There does seem to be this dim view of the British public and thier mental ability to be armed. It's only an education issue. I know there are more murders and deaths attributable to firearms in the USA but then, thier population is SIGNIFICANTLY larger than ours, proportionately the rates aren't night and day beyond most other countries in the world. There is this feeling that, if the UK were afforded the same freedoms as the US, then every 'mutha' would be armed to the teeth and bloodbaths would ensue in the middle of the shopping centre because little johnny's pushchair ran over Mr Jones of 59 Acacia Avenue's foot! In reality, it just wouldn't happen, most of the population have no interest in guns whatsoever (another symptom of media hype and lack of education) and... ok... we would probably see gangs of thugs armed and causing misery but that on't be with legally held guns and will be exactly the same groups who do that now with illegal guns.. Well said that man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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