garyb Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I'm in the market for some new glass to suit a 17HMR / Small varmint rifle... I've got a scope in mind, but it's offerered in both FFP and RFP. What do you use/prefer on your bunny rifles and why? Coincidently.. I own both FFP and RFP scopes on other rifles, and I still can't make my mind up as to what I prefer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I like a thin ret on a scope and with the RFP you will get this when zoomed in but...I also like mil dot rets which are usually FFP but need to be set at a specific mag for the mil dot to work unless you have put rounds on a target at specific mags vs different ranges. In reality I guess you find a ret you like and a mag you like and then work out hold over on the ret yourself regardless of the mil dot settings as most of the time most people use a variable mag scope on one setting - usually I use high mag for looking at specifics on say a deer or target idetification in low light but then wind it back a little to brighten and widen the view. So I guess for bunnies where there can be multiple targets and shots in a short space of time you may be better with a FFP with the mag set and the mil dots worked out as you will i guess be shooting between 20-150 yards with the HMR. Regards, Gixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I have to say i prefer FFP - i have RFP on my S&B 2.5-10x56 which is a pain, as when boar shooting i have it on 2.5 and the illuminated ret dot is so small it renders it invisible, plus the thin ret at that mag makes it harder to acquire a target on the run. Obviously this isn't an issue with bunny bashing on a .17hmr, but i still prefer FFP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted January 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I have to say i prefer FFP....... but i still prefer RFP. :hmm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 corrected! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted January 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Thank you sir! All food for thought... At the moment I am swung toward FFP, for the increased ret under lamping conditions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Gary,I have a Simmons WTC 6.5-20x50 scope on my Ruger 10/22 and I've got a S&B 8x56 to go on my forthcoming .17HMR rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) I have a Pecar Berlin FFP on my HMR but it's a standard (non mildot) ret and I only ever shoot with it on 6x so I don't really notice the difference. Having said that I don't worry about hold-over with the HMR, I pretty much use it on the range that is it flat anyway so calculating holdover isn't an issue. I wouldn't swap the Pecar for anything but that's just because it's such a good bit of glass. For normal rabbit distances with an HMR I can't see the point in worrying about it, just go for the best glass you can get. I know ppl say you don't need an uber scope for a rimmie but I've ended up with a Leupold FX-III on the LR and the Pecar on the hummer and they are both just stunning and well worth having. I'd have good glass over any other feature on a scope. Edited January 5, 2012 by Colster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted January 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Indeed.. I agree it hardly seems worth worrying about for HMR distances, but the scope in question offers the option of either placement along with a £700-£800 price tag So it's worth getting it sort of right I guess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 It is First Focal Plane and Second Focal Plane, never heard of a RFP :blink: Second Focal Plane having the Reticule that is a constant size through the Mag range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted January 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Front / Rear focal plane See - http://www.leupold.com/corporate/resources/faqs/#WhatIsTheDifferenceBetweenAFrontFocal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I have FFP on my .308 and now I'm used to it I really like it, though I rarely take the mag beyond 9 power. I can see the larger reticle at high mag being useful when bunny bashing, especially looking into a twiggy hedge bottom in winter. I wouldn't worry about mildots on an HMR. My HMR scope (SFF) has them but I never use them. The round is flat enough to gauge holdover using the rabbits ears as a guide out to 150 yds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I would go second FP, ret remains same size as you go up and down the power band. Combine it with a seperate rangefinder and a drop chart. I have had a Pecar variable FFP, ret was to heavy for long rabbits but ideal for deer etc, glass quality is excellent, far better than Luepold VX3 of which I have also dallied. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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