737 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hi I have bought 2 guns from an elderly gent who is giving up his SGC. One of the guns is a J Graham & Co of Inverness 12G Side by Side with ejectors. This is a stunning gun which has been rebarrelled at some point in its life by Alex Martin Ltd of Aberdeen. The previous owner of the gun inherited this gun 10 years ago from an uncle and doesnt know any history. J Graham & Co suffered a fire years ago apperently with all old records destroyed so a dead end there. Does anybody have any idea where to find out the approx age of the gun? Thanks Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Saw the stock and count the rings in the wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
737 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Saw the stock and count the rings in the wood Non destructive methods only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 should be able to date it from the proof marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 O.k haha count the candles on its next birthday cake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
737 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 should be able to date it from the proof marks. The proof marks are on the barrels :unsure: This would date the barrels and not the gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Vector Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Some serial number data for John Graham has been published (British Gunmakers, vol. 3 by Nigel Brown). The numbers cover a wide date range and won't tie your gun down a specific year. What's your serial number? Unfortunately, the proof marks will only tell you the date at which it was re-barrelled. Can you post some good pictures of the marks on the barrel flats (especially anything that looks like crossed swords with letter(s) and a number)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
737 Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Some serial number data for John Graham has been published (British Gunmakers, vol. 3 by Nigel Brown). The numbers cover a wide date range and won't tie your gun down a specific year. What's your serial number? Unfortunately, the proof marks will only tell you the date at which it was re-barrelled. Can you post some good pictures of the marks on the barrel flats (especially anything that looks like crossed swords with letter(s) and a number)? Heres a few pics. Camera is out of battery so had to use my phone. SN is 80248 2nd Pic 3rd Pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 The BV under crown on the receiver gives the original date range of 1904 to 1954 for manufacture ,The LB in crossed swords is a newer proof mark for the rebarrel of 1960 at the Birmingham proof house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike525steel Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Any pics of it all together ?.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
737 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Any pics of it all together ?.. Pic in the case and out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Vector Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Your serial number lies in the date range 1904 - 1925. It's a trade gun, possibly Webley and Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
737 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Your serial number lies in the date range 1904 - 1925. It's a trade gun, possibly Webley and Scott. Thanks for the info. Much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom&Dexter Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Tis Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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