tinytim38 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) as above, up till now I have been seating the tips 5 thou of the lands with pretty good results, anyone else doing it any different? Edited February 8, 2012 by tinytim38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnum Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 as above, up till now I have been seating the tips 5 thou of the lands with pretty good results, anyone else doing it any different? 10 thou i set mine at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 as above, up till now I have been seating the tips 5 thou of the lands with pretty good results, anyone else doing it any different? matters not if there set 5 or 150 thou off the lands as long as they group consistantly all rifles are different espeically factory rifles,by the way mine are 1 thou off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 My chambers are so long that i cannot seat my latest two rifles that close (the bullet would fall out), however comfort has been taken in the shared wisdom of others more knowledgable than i, that there a number of distances from the lands that work. I believe that it is to do with the guns harmonics being a wave, therefore you can find the optimum point on that wave in several locations. In doing so you also reduce the risk of the increased possibility of high pressures, throat wear etc associated with seating so close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
provider Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I seat mine at 5 thou off the lands but measure to the ogive of the bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Its not a big factor in squeezing the best accuraccy out of a factory gun and setting them too close can lead to pressure issues in changing climate and presence of rain and dirt. You might think of that advice when you get a jam one day at a crusial moment. Check the data spec for that bullet and just load to it. Factory chambers are not generally cut well enough for 5-10 or 15 tho jump to make a difference (indeed many bullets wont even fit in your mag if you try to seat to small jumps)Bench guns are different things entirely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooter Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 If I can I seat them 10 thou back. A few of the shorter bullets I use have to be seated at the book col or, as already said, they fall out of the case. Can't say it makes much difference out to 400yds with normal varmint shooting but with target rounds it shows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 matters not if there set 5 or 150 thou off the lands as long as they group consistantly all rifles are different espeically factory rifles,by the way mine are 1 thou off Please dont reccomend seating bullets one thou off the lands . Harnser . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Please dont reccomend seating bullets one thou off the lands . Harnser . wind you neck old lad,please "show" me were I recomended it,if you cant shut up,theres good lad the question was "how far off the lands do you seat your bullets" notice the words "YOUR BULLETS" hence my reply of 1 thou off,by the way theres nothing wrong with seating a bullet 1 thou off the lands or even running with 10 thou of "jam" but I dought you undrstand what that is Edited February 9, 2012 by Ackley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleaner4hire Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Please dont reccomend seating bullets one thou off the lands . Harnser . Why not Harnser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Anyone picking 5, 10, or whatever thou out of a hat and getting good results are very very lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Why not Harnser? because he dont know any better and just wants to argue over something hes knows nothing about accuracy is usually found the closest to the lands if you can get a bullet that close that is,this is why factory rifles struggle as they have long throats Edited February 9, 2012 by Ackley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Why not Harnser? Because one thou off the lands is to close . Not enough free play in case you make a mistake . Bullet seating dies can vary in the depth that they seat bullets and you could end up with a bullet in the lands . That a serious obstruction . Harnser . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Because one thou off the lands is to close . Not enough free play in case you make a mistake . Bullet seating dies can vary in the depth that they seat bullets and you could end up with a bullet in the lands . That a serious obstruction . Harnser . total rubbish,you need to use quailty bullets and quailty dies,and do the usual powder tests for pressure,its that simple,by the way my reamer is made with zero free bore do you know anything about precission reloading Iam not btalking about your 4 inch group at 100 yards and using LEE ****,you can run any rifle 1 thou of the lands if you have the right chamber to allow the bullet to be gripped in the case enough "soft seating" is the best way to seat a bullet as its the same every single time,but you cant do that with a hunting rifle incase you have to unload it, Edited February 9, 2012 by Ackley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 because he dont know any better and just wants to argue over something hes knows nothing about accuracy is usually found the closest to the lands if you can get a bullet that close that is,this is why factory rifles struggle as they have long throats You have got to be the most obnoxious ,ignorant ,self centerd ,22 carrot idiot that I have had the misfortune to incounter . Advice that you have posted on here in the past has not only been dangerous ,but also wilfull . Harnser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) You have got to be the most obnoxious ,ignorant ,self centerd ,22 carrot idiot that I have had the misfortune to incounter . Advice that you have posted on here in the past has not only been dangerous ,but also wilfull . Harnser at least I know what Iam talking about,again show me where I recomended to seat a bullet 1 thou of the lands,or are you trying as usual to change and ruin a topic show me or shut up,also show me my dangerous advice if you just want to argue do it by PM better still to my face I will be at Newark show this month agai reverting to silly name calling just becasue you dont understand the topic and cannot bring anything constuctive to the table Edited February 9, 2012 by Ackley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 The problem with these forums is that you dont really know the person who is posting . Some times novice shooters will be prepard to accept the advice of any body who posts and think that any advice given is safe and will work . Any body who accepts advice on this or other forums should make up their minds as to who is proberbly the more experienced person to give the advice and the tips . Beware of the braggarts and the faster the better idiots . Generally the advice on here is very good and comes from some very experienced field sportsmen and shooters . Unfortunately this and other forums have to suffer the e-go tripping Walt's and Billy's . Harnser . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) The problem with these forums is that you dont really know the person who is posting . Some times novice shooters will be prepard to accept the advice of any body who posts and think that any advice given is safe and will work . Any body who accepts advice on this or other forums should make up their minds as to who is proberbly the more experienced person to give the advice and the tips . Beware of the braggarts and the faster the better idiots . Generally the advice on here is very good and comes from some very experienced field sportsmen and shooters . Unfortunately this and other forums have to suffer the e-go tripping Walt's and Billy's . Harnser . back peddling are we again I ask "show me the post where Iam recomending loading 1 thou off the lands" novice shooters should take advice of people who actually know and have experience of modern relaoding tecniques instead of old dinosaurs who still live in caves by the way you have obvioulsy "MISSED" no one has given any advice just ststing what jump there OWN bullets are making Edited February 9, 2012 by Ackley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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