Rushjob Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Apologies if I have missed it, but I don't think anyone has responded to this bit (if they did then many other replies have either missed it or ignored it as well) We have had many similar threads before, and I am sure previously people have posted the relevant legislation and although there is a defence of shooting a dog to protect livestock - there is a specific definition of livestock which doesn't include chickens or any other birds? (normally comes up when discussing protecting pheasants). I think this is what you were aluding to? Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 This Act deals with criminal liability. A dog’s owner and any other person, who is in charge of the dog at the time, will be guilty of an offence if the dog worries livestock on any agricultural land. The definition of ‘livestock’ includes cattle, sheep, goats, swine, horses and poultry (domestic fowls, turkeys, geese or ducks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Follow the countryside code. http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/ourwork/enjoying/countrysidecode/keepdogs.aspx webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWD Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 He should have made the place more dog/fox proof seemed obvious....That would save him a fair bit of bother..If he wasn't there and a lurcher,fox or whatever wandered in he wouldn't have a chicken left. Makes better logic that sitting on guard with a gun. Even a cheap electric fence could have saved everyone the grief on that day and for the next few years. Just like the owners have a care of duty to there now deceased dog which they failed at..he has one to his "stock"if he has any real regard .The dog owners however have walked there before so must have been aware of the bolt holes in the fence ......double fail I reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome of the Woods Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Just added my two penneth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Artschool, did you post my recommended signage change on the comments section? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Artschool, did you post my recommended signage change on the comments section? Guilty as charged. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Hope you aren't offended! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Not at all! I seriously do think what they have put in the sign is daft, and the blame is almost solely on them. As for the posts saying his guns should be removed, utter tosh from uninformed townies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagsy Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 The blame is with the owners, there's no doubt about that. The question in my mind is whether shooting the dog in this circumstance was the right thing to do. Chasing a sheep in lamb is one thing, chasing a couple of chicken drum sticks is quite another. Hiding behind the country code doesn't make this right in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 This Act deals with criminal liability. A dogs owner and any other person, who is in charge of the dog at the time, will be guilty of an offence if the dog worries livestock on any agricultural land. The definition of livestock includes cattle, sheep, goats, swine, horses and poultry (domestic fowls, turkeys, geese or ducks). Thanks for that Looking at it, this Act makes it a criminal offence for a dog to worry livestock. It is actually the Animals Act 1971 section 9 that permits the occupier to shoot a dog to protect livestock. The definition of livestock is similar and does include poultry. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1971/22 livestock means cattle, horses, *****, mules, hinnies, sheep, pigs, goats and poultry, and also deer not in the wild state and, in sections 3 and 9, also, while in captivity, pheasants, partridges and grouse;poultry means the domestic varieties of the following, that is to say, fowls, turkeys, geese, ducks, guinea-fowls, pigeons, peacocks and quails; and Also interesting that it seems to include game birds in pens because I recalled it has been stated in several threads that it doesn't. Cheers HW682 Edited February 25, 2012 by HW682 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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