storme37 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 I find it difficult to believe that a farmer wouldn't know what was happening on his own farm. They're not stupid. i must admit it seems he must never have been there if he managed to miss it, so i have my doubts about that to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulf Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 (edited) The farmer would have at the very least probably suspected ill treatment and at worst turned a blind eye to it. All the farms I worked at had a bolt gun for casualty dispatch, this way always kept in the farmhouse gun safe and we would have to ask for it to be opened. If the staff were not using a bolt then how did the guy think animals were being dispatched? there would have been some form of record of casualty animals. I feel soory for his family but not for the man. Edited March 17, 2012 by paulf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 The comments that the cameraman was worse than the people actually abusing the animals are laughable. So it is perfectly fine for the cameraman to stand by and watch "horrible abuse of intelligent animals" for weeks on end. It is disgusting what went on but surely if you wanted to help those animals you would have gone to the farmer / authorities straight away and not filmed for weeeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 So it is perfectly fine for the cameraman to stand by and watch "horrible abuse of intelligent animals" for weeks on end. It is disgusting what went on but surely if you wanted to help those animals you would have gone to the farmer / authorities straight away and not filmed for weeeks. Read the guys diary - he hated not being able to intervene, but one days worth of investigating wouldn't have given him a clear picture of what was happening. He saw vets and inspectors turn a blind eye, saw many different types of abuse, and learned a lot about what happens there ( and probably elsewhere too ). Don't blame the investigator for the crimes he witnessed, without him it would still be happening there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 But now the farmer has comitted suicide it will stop? great result all round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 But now the farmer has comitted suicide it will stop? great result all round. I am sad that anyone should kill themself, but blaming the activist is silly. Perhaps he couldn't face the prospect of prison, he wouldn't be the first to commit suicide rather than do a stretch but we don't blame the police. I wish his family well and hope the press don't give them a hard time, maybe lessons will be learned and conditions will be improved on farms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 lessons learned would be the best anyone can hope for as a result of the sad tale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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