fergie Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 Ok in the not to distant future we have decided that I can have a gun dog I like Springers but she prefers a sold colored dog. until today I had forgotten all about the field Spaniel. are there any breeders of working field spaniels in east Yorkshire or near by if not do you know of any breeders of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker boy Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Finding a working field spaniel will be hard work and will not be a dog for a novice. They are slow to mature and are slow to watch. Get a springer or cocker, forget the colour , it is hard enough to get a good dog without worrying about the colour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 I'll echo the comments on field spaniels. There ae some nice chocolate (solid) working cockers around in Yorkshire at the moment - have a search on Preloved. I'm still trying to convince the wife I can have one but doesn't stop me looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheasant Feeder Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 I saw a bloke with a sussex spaniel about 4 months old, last year. I liked the look of it and did a little research, field spaniels and sussex are quite closely related. The thing that put me off is that they give tongue when on the scent of game I thought about it and very quickly realised there's no way I would be happy having a dog that barked its knackers off at every pheasant, not to mention the high probability of being asked to 'leave the dog at home next time'. Subsequently I decided against one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 I imagine there is a reason why you don't see many field spaniels, as they aren't as useful in the field as cockers and springers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 I saw a bloke with a sussex spaniel about 4 months old, last year. I liked the look of it and did a little research, field spaniels and sussex are quite closely related. The thing that put me off is that they give tongue when on the scent of game I thought about it and very quickly realised there's no way I would be happy having a dog that barked its knackers off at every pheasant, not to mention the high probability of being asked to 'leave the dog at home next time'. Subsequently I decided against one. Er, no - they don't. Sussex are *allowed* to give tongue according to the breed standard, but I've not seen (nor heard) the first that does. Sussex and fieldies aren't necessarily "closely related" either - fieldies were the first spaniel bred purely for the show ring. Clumber and Sussex blood has intermingled over time, especially with the (working) clumber helping rejuvenate the Sussex. This thread comes up about once a year - and the answer is always that a proper field spaniel working gundog is all but unobtainable (i.e., rarer than hen's teeth). A working Sussex on the other hand... MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 But they must be out there if not I will consider the springer I have been offered 1st pick of the litter, he owns bot parents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheasant Feeder Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Er, no - they don't. Sussex are *allowed* to give tongue according to the breed standard, but I've not seen (nor heard) the first that does. Sussex and fieldies aren't necessarily "closely related" either - fieldies were the first spaniel bred purely for the show ring. Clumber and Sussex blood has intermingled over time, especially with the (working) clumber helping rejuvenate the Sussex. This thread comes up about once a year - and the answer is always that a proper field spaniel working gundog is all but unobtainable (i.e., rarer than hen's teeth). A working Sussex on the other hand... MG I'm happy to stand corrected Are you saying that the Sussex does not give tongue, when working? Also do you have experience of working Sussex? I'm interested to learn more as I did quite like the look of them and as a rare breed might be willing to consider one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archi Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 A woman round our way in Norfolk had 2 sussexs and as far as I can remember they worked well and didnt make a noise whilst hunting. I believe one of the best out there with Sussexs is Bill Cadwell looking at the minor breed trial results. try www.sussexspaniels.org.uk for further info If you put in a google search for working sussex spaniels it will come up with his contact details. Like everything with minor breed / show breeds ensure pups are worker to worker etc. archi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 (edited) Are you saying that the Sussex does not give tongue, when working? Also do you have experience of working Sussex? Yes, no tongue; yes, experience with Sussex in spades (as above [and below] being my 10-year-old bitch). Archi's sussed it: Bill Cadwell's the man to see about a dog - at least this breed of dog. Jubilwell kennel affix if you're seeking him out. MG Edited May 15, 2012 by cracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheasant Feeder Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Thanks for the input, I'll give them a second look, and due consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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