WelshLamb Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 what a crock of rubbish they are mongrels SIMPLZZZZZZZZ.... worth nowt in my opinion how many times .....BEES WITH BEES & BIRDS WITH BIRDS :good: Couldn't agree more. If you want a good hunting dog get a spaniel with proven blood lines. 'nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Couldn't agree more. If you want a good hunting dog get a spaniel with proven blood lines. 'nuff said be the worst mistake he could ever make in this circumstances, as much use as tits on a bull in terms of a stalking companion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 be the worst mistake he could ever make in this circumstances, as much use as tits on a bull in terms of a stalking companion Even worse than a terrier crossed with a poodle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 yup you stand half a chance of keeping something that size quiet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 yup you stand half a chance of keeping something that size quiet That's what I need... Ninja Puppy! half way there already with the colour Seriously though... Alex is right in one respect, Borders tend to be quiet dogs.. one of the reasons I wanted one in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Even worse than a terrier crossed with a poodle? You mean a hunting dog crossed with a... ummm... hunting dog ? Look... I'm not saying he will perform like a Teckel or a GWP or a blood hound... but he might! First and formost he is my pal.. and up to now... he's doing a very good job! If I wanted an out and out worker.. he wouldn't have got the job and he would be living outside in a kennel.. that's not what I wanted... Can't believe there is so much dog snobbery! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I can't believe anyone suggested a spanner as a stalking companion I'd also suggest that at times on game borders are far from quiet, but that does mean let it off on a trail and you will hear where its gone and then be able to catch up while it finishes "killing" an already dead deer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I can't believe anyone suggested a spanner as a stalking companion I'd also suggest that at times on game borders are far from quiet, but that does mean let it off on a trail and you will hear where its gone and then be able to catch up while it finishes "killing" an already dead deer yep... that sound's like my vision no need for tracking collars then! the 2 BTs I 'know' never bark, never growl... I may have a blinkered view.. never been with one out 'on the job' ooer Blimey... this has got off topic.. He's cute, he's gorgeous and just want's to be near to me! He's currently fast asleep nuzzled into the back of my neck on the top of my sofa! do ya know... I have bonded with him so much, I really don't care if he turns out to be completely useless in the field! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 He's cute, he's gorgeous and just want's to be near to me! He's currently fast asleep nuzzled into the back of my neck on the top of my sofa! do ya know... I have bonded with him so much, I really don't care if he turns out to be completely useless in the field! then you have a perfect companion enjoy him to the full ....... i have a very similar situation as i have a pedigree lab who does everything i ask of him, is he perfect NO, is he clued up on the style of hunting i do YES, will he make a trial dog i don't know because it's not what i wanted, is he a loyal loving pal YOU BET HE IS....... non the less i still dont agree with the fashionable cross breeding and big money that is becoming popular these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Its all a learning curve and a lot depends how they are brought up, my GWP sits under a high seat fine for hours doesn't bat an eyelid at most things till the other night she had a rabbit come within 2 feet of her lets just say I was glad the lead wasn't attached to the ladder as it just tipped her over the edge Get them used to coming out and you get the most chance,, the plus point with a terrier is you can take it out pretty much from day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 He's cute, he's gorgeous and just want's to be near to me! He's currently fast asleep nuzzled into the back of my neck on the top of my sofa! do ya know... I have bonded with him so much, I really don't care if he turns out to be completely useless in the field! then you have a perfect companion enjoy him to the full ....... i have a very similar situation as i have a pedigree lab who does everything i ask of him, is he perfect NO, is he clued up on the style of hunting i do YES, will he make a trial dog i don't know because it's not what i wanted, is he a loyal loving pal YOU BET HE IS....... non the less i still dont agree with the fashionable cross breeding and big money that is becoming popular these days I agree completely... this one ceretainly ain't a designer pup.. purely bred for the coat and hopefully none of the genetic & health issues suffered by purebreds. I do like labs.. just too big for me.. there'd be no room left in my sleeping bag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Its all a learning curve and a lot depends how they are brought up, my GWP sits under a high seat fine for hours doesn't bat an eyelid at most things till the other night she had a rabbit come within 2 feet of her lets just say I was glad the lead wasn't attached to the ladder as it just tipped her over the edge Get them used to coming out and you get the most chance,, the plus point with a terrier is you can take it out pretty much from day 1 Yep good point... Any pointers on when & how to introduce him to gunfire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 mine started lamping sitting in the truck with moderated HMR's and went from there that was at 16 weeks old and she will if left to her devices when foxing now just sleep on the back seat till a shot then get up ready for action. If you go lamping then it can be a decent way to start if it will sit quietly enough, then take it from there. Once you let them see what you've shot and they associate rifles with fun then they don't tend to think about it as being a bad noise. if you just shoot larger cals then assuming they are moderated you just keep the dog a bit further away to start with, its no where near as hard as getting them used to shotguns where the shots are louder and far more frequent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 with pups i have always got them used to noise before bangs as in kicking the metal feed bowls and water bowls after they are empty and move on progressively as they get used to louder things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 mine started lamping sitting in the truck with moderated HMR's and went from there that was at 16 weeks old and she will if left to her devices when foxing now just sleep on the back seat till a shot then get up ready for action. If you go lamping then it can be a decent way to start if it will sit quietly enough, then take it from there. Once you let them see what you've shot and they associate rifles with fun then they don't tend to think about it as being a bad noise. if you just shoot larger cals then assuming they are moderated you just keep the dog a bit further away to start with, its no where near as hard as getting them used to shotguns where the shots are louder and far more frequent. with pups i have always got them used to noise before bangs as in kicking the metal feed bowls and water bowls after they are empty and move on progressively as they get used to louder things Thanks chaps... Is there any milage, while he is really young, in popping balloons and getting closer and closer to him, possibly giving him a treat when he hears a bang? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I'd be careful about balloons as for some reason mine isn't keen on them bursting and yet she is fine with any gun, though may be due to having burst a couple herself. I'd stick with bowls and guns personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Sorry vipa but alot of us weatherbound chaps take great delight in expressing outrageous opinions and insulting one another on PW if you take that away we'd be as well joining the children on THL so show us your poodacock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Sorry vipa but alot of us weatherbound chaps take great delight in expressing outrageous opinions and insulting one another on PW if you take that away we'd be as well joining the children on THL so show us your poodacock. He's a Border Terrorpoo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 hahahaha he could sit on my desk and drink tea and eat biccy's all day he's got the cute factor :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) That's what I need... Ninja Puppy! half way there already with the colour Seriously though... Alex is right in one respect, Borders tend to be quiet dogs.. one of the reasons I wanted one in the first place Alex it depends on the spaniel Vipa knows my springer and you could not get a quieter dog 7 years old and has never once barked. He's a one man dog just ignores every one else when im around he's a real pal... :good: Edited July 11, 2012 by hawkeye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 He's a Border Terrorpoo! Paul he looks a right bundle of mischief Dont know about the terrorpoo but have heard he can certainly POO big style... :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 what a crock of rubbish they are mongrels SIMPLZZZZZZZZ.... worth nowt in my opinion how many times .....BEES WITH BEES & BIRDS WITH BIRDS :good: ALSO dogs with dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james79 Posted July 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 4 pages and still no info on any breeders or dogs for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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