fieldwanderer Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 A friend at work has agreed to make me a metal charge bar for my pacific reloader, the original works ok but I feel it's a little worn. I believe hornady bushings fit the original butbecause I'm having one made I can have whatever I like! - the lee load all bushings I have are the same length (depth?) and the local gunshop can do me a set for £12.50. Would I be better off having it made to use the hornady bushings that are more expensive but a greater variety or the cheap and easily sourced lee bushings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted August 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 Anyone know what pacific / hornady bushing I need for 20gns of vectan AS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Pm Mick Shaw he will tell you Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 buy a scale, work it out for yourself. without being slightly pedantic, but how is some guy going to tell you what amount is being dropped? i`ve bought a few bushings that have been drilled. even a shot bar that was "way" out of spec. thats why i dont bother buying 2nd hand bars and bushings, if i aquire any 2nd hand stuff, it usually is weight checked against something dense, and light. just going by heresay from the tintnet is plain crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted August 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) I'd be buying the bushing new from wherever (midway probably) but the chart for hornady bushings doesn't list nobelsport powders. I'd check it, of course - and I already have a scale thankyou but I could do without buying 5 or 6 bushings to find the right one - so, why not ask? If one of you guys is using such and such a bushing with AS and it comes out right for what I want (20gn), surely that's a pretty good place to start? Edited August 3, 2012 by fieldwanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 The bushing drops can vary quite a bit with different batches of then same powder, as I recently found with A0. New lot weighing a grain heavier and so lots of messing about opening up a smaller bush to get it corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) you can actually work out for yourself what bushing is best by doing an average drop check between a set of datapoints. say you mesure bushing 10, 20, 30, 40 with vectan AS. (or even 25 & 30 and use excell to extend the data.) put the amounts on a graph, then read off what bushing you require for x grains. thats what i did. its an odd way of calculating it but it can be accurate to within 1-2 bushings. which could be the variance with a dense powder, with lighter and lagder flake, it can be within 2-3 bushings. i stopped doing this, because i bought more bushings and have every other bushing. thats how the manufacturers do it and then subtract either a bushing number or a grain from the calculated drop. (charts are always light) Edited August 3, 2012 by cookoff013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotemaster Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 I wouldn't think you need worry about buying an inordinate amount of bushings. You can ream them out or shim them up(with wad petals) if need be. I would stick with Hornady/PW bushings and leave the Lee bushings for Lee loaders. Do it once and do it right. (It must be my day for aphorism) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarepeg Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Sleeve the lee bushings into the Hornaday pacific,and you have a good selection of powder bushings at hand. also the Ponsness/warren same fitting, one bushing reamed out to fit all the lee powder ones, john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted August 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Yeah, I scrapped the new charge bar idea but used this thread as it had the relevant title. As it happens, with a bit of pottering about earlier I managed to line a a bushing with copper pipe and ream it out to drop exactly 20gns so, for now all's well but I do need to get a few around the right size to allow for variations as mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Shaw Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Hi FW The Pacific bush I am using for my latest batch of Vectan AS to throw 20.0 grains is .486” This is an “N”(.489) and I used an “M” (.478) with my last Batch, Each batch of powder may differ slightly in density. Hope this helps Mick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted August 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) Thankyou , can you explain the N and M though please, I've never seen it before? I've only looked at Hornady bushings to be honest, would I be right in thinking the .486" is the one to try to start with? Edited August 9, 2012 by fieldwanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Shaw Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) Hi FW On the list that I have the Ponsness/Warren bushes have a letter prefix, and fit the hornady pacific loaders,The Hornady bushes just have a size in inches, the MEC bushes have a number and need a bushing adapter to fit the hornady or P.W. Mick. PS Yes I would start with the .486 Edited August 9, 2012 by Mick Shaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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