simon6ppc Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 i ave an hw 100 which shoots brilliant , its not been used for 4 month, when i shot it today it just will not group any more,does the barrel need cleaning or do you chaps think it could be some thing else.ps its the same scope,pellet what ive always used, all so sconer dont laff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 i ave an hw 100 which shoots brilliant , its not been used for 4 month, when i shot it today it just will not group any more,does the barrel need cleaning or do you chaps think it could be some thing else.ps its the same scope,pellet what ive always used, all so sconer dont laff. Could the gun have had a bit of a knock. It could be the Silencer lose or out of line (ie) pellets clipping the Silencer. What pressure have you got in it over pressure can give you flyers. Take your scope of and re-mount it. Try cleaning your Barrel it might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted July 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Could the gun have had a bit of a knock. It could be the Silencer lose or out of line (ie) pellets clipping the Silencer. What pressure have you got in it over pressure can give you flyers. Take your scope of and re-mount it. Try cleaning your Barrel it might help. cheers pal, but its not bin knocked,checked every thing you said, it still just wont hold a group,oh sorry avnt cleaned barrel yet.thats all i can think realy it did finger nails at 40 yard,now its doing 3 inch groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 cheers pal, but its not bin knocked,checked every thing you said, it still just wont hold a group,oh sorry avnt cleaned barrel yet.thats all i can think realy it did finger nails at 40 yard,now its doing 3 inch groups I would take the Silencer off and try it. If it groups better take your Silencer apart if you find little shards of lead in it. I have had to drill out a few Silencers because of poor grouping. I have a Daystate huntsman FTR that has a two peace silencer on it with 26 baffles in it. When i took it apart it was full of lead bits were the pellets were clipping the baffles. I put it on a machine bed and it was very slightly bent i had to dill it out to 8 mm to stop it clipping pellets and group has it should. And the gun is still silent all you hear is the hammer hitting the air valve. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhw100 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 cheers pal, but its not bin knocked,checked every thing you said, it still just wont hold a group,oh sorry avnt cleaned barrel yet.thats all i can think realy it did finger nails at 40 yard,now its doing 3 inch groups are you sure you haven't knocked it? i don't think cleaning the barrel is the answer i 've NEVER cleaned any of my airgun barrels and i've had them for 13 years. some people will disagree with that but hey ho. don't get me wrong i clean them every time they are used just not the barrels internally. Because you haven,t used it for four months doesnt mean the barrel has got dirty!. did you leaved it cocked for that whole time? you may have a leak and a dodgy pressure gauge. ive never had that problem with mine. What are you resting on? are you clipping something on route to the target? unless like night searcher sais you are clipping the silencer-but it must of had a knock or been doing it originally to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubshot Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I have a Bar Custom HW100 longer aircyclinder - in .177 I once left if fully charged for some time / months And it would not take air - On getting it Serviced by Hull - it seems leaving fully charged - it damaged the Exhust valve Somthing I will not do again in a hurry - Mine has been serviced serveral times by Hull Cartridge over the years As not aware of a Gunsmith that I trust to work on them It has had many thousands of pellets it's through it over the years They are AT Factory Sealed - BOB/R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted July 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 thanks for the replies,as i know how good the gun is, to me i think the scope must ave broke, i am trying a another one today, i ave shot air rifle, center fire rifles, for nearly 30 years,so ive checked all the usual things,loose mounts, silencers, even if it was me, i am going to enjoy putting it right as it shot that good before it was a joke.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted July 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 are you sure you haven't knocked it? i don't think cleaning the barrel is the answer i 've NEVER cleaned any of my airgun barrels and i've had them for 13 years. some people will disagree with that but hey ho. don't get me wrong i clean them every time they are used just not the barrels internally. Because you haven,t used it for four months doesnt mean the barrel has got dirty!. did you leaved it cocked for that whole time? you may have a leak and a dodgy pressure gauge. ive never had that problem with mine. What are you resting on? are you clipping something on route to the target? unless like night searcher sais you are clipping the silencer-but it must of had a knock or been doing it originally to do that. the only thing ive noticed is when i shoot mine ,alot of vapour seems to leave the silencer,were as my mates you do not see it, may be nothing, but i did notice that, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 the only thing ive noticed is when i shoot mine ,alot of vapour seems to leave the silencer,were as my mates you do not see it, may be nothing, but i did notice that, The vapour you are seeing is moisture (ie) water very bad for the insides of your gun. Are you filling your gun by an air pump has they put moisture in your gun i used to get a lot of vapour when i filled by a pump. I have two Air bottles now that i get filled with very clean dry Air at a dive shop. And since filling my guns from a Air bottle i see very little vapour and i used to get leaking seals and valves but since filling from a Air bottle i have had no problems at all. It might be a good idea to send it to Hull cartridge for a full strip and service. If there`s been moisture in the gun your regulator could be faulty. Hope you sort it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted July 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 The vapour you are seeing is moisture (ie) water very bad for the insides of your gun. Are you filling your gun by an air pump has they put moisture in your gun i used to get a lot of vapour when i filled by a pump. I have two Air bottles now that i get filled with very clean dry Air at a dive shop. And since filling my guns from a Air bottle i see very little vapour and i used to get leaking seals and valves but since filling from a Air bottle i have had no problems at all. It might be a good idea to send it to Hull cartridge for a full strip and service. If there`s been moisture in the gun your regulator could be faulty. Hope you sort it out. hya pal,i cleaned the barrel as i do a center fire, then emptied the cylinder on the gun,left it to dry for a day,put it all back together,its bang on again,with no moisture comeing out the silencer.so either way its back to normal,cheers any way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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