DaveM Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Hi, Has anyone ever had a flight at John Muir Country park? Just picked up a fowling permit for the 2012/13 season and starting to plan a couple of trips this side of Christmas and a few in Jan. Would appreciate a few words of wisdom from anyone that been shot there before, such as a good camp site etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reabrook Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 I was under the impression that JMCP was Season Permit only and that numbers of Permits issued was under very strict control and almost impossible for the visitor to obtain. I may not have that exactly right but someone will know the full facts I should think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveM Posted August 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Yes I believe you are right, they only issue something like 15% of season permits to peope outside of East Lothian.... however I have one . Applied for it last January, recieved confirmation of my application in Feb and came through the door Saturday morning!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry P Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Fortunatly i've never been shot anywhere :blink: lol. I'm sure i read they give out about 100 visitor permits, never shot there myself but if you google the area theres a bit of info about the shooting there. . Good luck and hope you get a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 i got a permit for there but unfortunatly never got a chance to get up there to have a go there was someone on this forum who was shooting there last season, i forget the name, i put up a post about it when i was planning to go up, maybe try search it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reabrook Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Hi, Has anyone ever had a flight at John Muir Country park? Just picked up a fowling permit for the 2012/13 season and starting to plan a couple of trips this side of Christmas and a few in Jan. Would appreciate a few words of wisdom from anyone that been shot there before, such as a good camp site etc.. Apologies Dave completely missed the fact you already had a permit. That's the trouble with late night posting after a beer or two. Never been there so can't offer any advice of any value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 just got my permit through the letter box this morning very surprised i got another for this season after not using it last season. I will most definatly be up for a few days before and after christmas this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo57 Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 It's no just East Lothian residents that get automatic permits . Folk living in any of the Lothians - east, mid or west get them without limit. Apart from that there areb 100 allocated for non-residents. It can be good wildfowling, especially in January, but don't expect big bags. The last wardens report I saw showed 0.8 birds per fowler per day. Mainly wigeon but also a few pinks and some resident canadas and greys that usually get wiped out by the local on the first day of the season. On the other hand it is very easy fowling. The "mud " is only 2 inches deep with firm sand below and you can easily wade the river in chesties at low tide. The wardens do keep a very close watch on it and they have full powers to check permits and shells. Its against the law to even carry lead shot with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laird Lugton Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 (edited) Over the last few days I've been out to JMCP. Yesterday afternoon at low tide and this morning at high tide. In the pic below there are Greylag geese but I couldn't see any this morning. (you may need a magnifying glass ) A link to the larger version of the pic below http://www.flickr.co...57631235470686/ I did see about 10 mallard and loads of wood pigeon (allowed on the wildfowling permit). The rest of the pictures of JMCP can be found on my flickr page http://www.flickr.co...31173@N08/sets/ Yesterday I bumped into a bird spotter who is an ex ranger at JMCP, he's now a warden at a nature reserve along the coast. He's none too happy with wild fowlers who he says are responsible for shooting a lot of species not on the quarry list so our conversation was short and polite when I mentioned wild fowling! Jimbo, where in Midlothian are you? I'm near the bustling metropolis of Dalkeith. Edited August 25, 2012 by Laird Lugton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 It's no just East Lothian residents that get automatic permits . Folk living in any of the Lothians - east, mid or west get them without limit. Apart from that there areb 100 allocated for non-residents. It can be good wildfowling, especially in January, but don't expect big bags. The last wardens report I saw showed 0.8 birds per fowler per day. Mainly wigeon but also a few pinks and some resident canadas and greys that usually get wiped out by the local on the first day of the season. On the other hand it is very easy fowling. The "mud " is only 2 inches deep with firm sand below and you can easily wade the river in chesties at low tide. The wardens do keep a very close watch on it and they have full powers to check permits and shells. Its against the law to even carry lead shot with you. Which Law forbids the carrying of lead shot is it a local bye law or just a condition on the permit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo57 Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 (edited) Laird Lugton - Bathgate now. No the prettiest bit o the Lothians but handy for the motorways. Used to be Ratho. Vulpicide - The byelaws authorise the conditions of the permit which every permit holder agrees to when the apply for a permit. So it has the fuill force of the law. Max fine is £100 for breaking a byelaw (plus any addition if a national law is also being broken - like if actually shooting with lead shot on the foreshore) and the permit would be automatially revoked. If the police had to be called by the warden, it would also almost certainly lead to the offender losing his shotgun certificate. So no worth taking the risk. Edited August 26, 2012 by Jimbo57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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