JonathanL Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 i know a guy who claims he lost his when his wife rang up to say they spliting up. The fact that your wife is leaving is not, of its self, reason to revoke a certificate. There would have to be other reasons. In reality, a cert can only be revoked if you no longer meet the statutory conditions for having a cert which are laid down in the Firearms Act. Those being; that you are a danger to the public safety or the peace, that you have become a prohibited person or that you no longer have good reason to possess the firearm. J. A good idea if you are in that situation is to store your firearms at a dealer. The police could argue that they were concerned that the firearms could be used in a stressful situation as has happened in similar situations. Simply getting divorced is not good enough reason though. If it were then people would be getting revoked left, right and centre yet they aren't. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Sorry, there may be some confusion here - is the above directed at me? My experience is 100% confirmed...and I was not doubting the one you mentioned. Regards, Gixer gixer1, on 09 September 2012 - 10:43 AM, said: Dependant on circumstance! He got into a fight and hit a guy over the head with a bottle ABH. He rep-applied three years later and got it back. I am explaining the circumstances. The person i was referring to and what happened in his case as above. For those that are a bit thick i will post it again in a way they will understand. The person that i know had his firearms certificate revoked for assaulting a guy. With me so far. He reapplied a few years later and he got his certificate back. I realise it could be a attempt at humor i suppose some people are easily amused. PS Don't give up your day jobs. On this note (@ ordnance) why on earth are you quoting my post before accusing people of being thick?? I was merely wryly agreeing with a former FEO that the reasons why people claim to have lost their licences and the real reason might actually be different in a few cases. Like we often see on PW, when we only get 50% of a story and then the truth leaks out later. Happens all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 On this note (@ ordnance) why on earth are you quoting my post before accusing people of being thick?? I was merely wryly agreeing with a former FEO that the reasons why people claim to have lost their licences and the real reason might actually be different in a few cases. Like we often see on PW, when we only get 50% of a story and then the truth leaks out later. Happens all the time. My mistake did not mean to include your post. Edited post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 My mistake did not mean to include your post. Edited post. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 I doubt suffering from depression is a reason to revoke your SGC or FAC though going to the docs with suicidal tendancies could put you on the at risk register and that may flag up at the police station. I suffer from depression and have both certs and it is never been a problem for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robl Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 When I got my SGC the FEO did tell me that if there is a domestic dispute it’s now policy to remove the shotguns and suspend the cert until the domestic dispute is resolved. I have no reason to doubt this is true. I’ll assume that if there are any police related problems then the first thing they do is take away the guns until it’s all resolved. We know a member here recently had a problem where he lost the guns for a few weeks, but it was all resolved and he got them back. I do wonder if some of these stories are temporary suspension and permanent revocation. (those are my terms, I’m not sure what the legal terms are if there are any) I also agree with the poster above. The real reasons for the loss of the cert may not be the ones told to mates. And even if they are true, it’s possible there’s a whole back story that’s hidden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 When I got my SGC the FEO did tell me that if there is a domestic dispute it’s now policy to remove the shotguns and suspend the cert until the domestic dispute is resolved. I have no reason to doubt this is true. I’ll assume that if there are any police related problems then the first thing they do is take away the guns until it’s all resolved. We know a member here recently had a problem where he lost the guns for a few weeks, but it was all resolved and he got them back. I do wonder if some of these stories are temporary suspension and permanent revocation. (those are my terms, I’m not sure what the legal terms are if there are any) I also agree with the poster above. The real reasons for the loss of the cert may not be the ones told to mates. And even if they are true, it’s possible there’s a whole back story that’s hidden. The thing is that there is no mechanism in law to 'suspend' someones ticket. It's revocation or nothing. I can see that there might be a sensible thing to have but only under the control of law; Parliament should amend the Firearms Act to allow it to happen so that there is proper judicial oversight and a means of appeal so that it doesn't get out of hand. At present, if it's going on, it is completely uncontrolled and is done at the pleasure of the police. The police are not allowed to come round and suspend your driving licence or remove other property from you unless Parliament has given them the power to do so. Why should they be alllowed to take firearms from you? J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixhills 69 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) I had mine revoked last christmas took me three months to get it to court 20 minutes in court to get it back That was for pointing a laser out of my front door Edited September 12, 2012 by sixhills 69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangon Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I had mine revoked last christmas took me three months to get it to court 20 minutes in court to get it back That was for pointing a laser out of my front door What happened mate, Did a nosey neighbour phone the police? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 The reasons that someone is revoked, and the reason that they tell their friends, are quite often not the same. This ^^ I met a chap one night who told me about his revocation, and how unjust it was. 6 pints and the full story later I wanted to congratulate the copper that emptied his cabinet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixhills 69 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) What happened mate, Did a nosey neighbour phone the police? yep plod turned and so was the start of a stressful 3 months of being messed about the judge was not impressed as the police had no case they tried to revoke on the grounds of breach of the peace but the complainent stated he never feared for his saftey thats because he was lying through his teeth Edited September 12, 2012 by sixhills 69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 This ^^ I met a chap one night who told me about his revocation, and how unjust it was. 6 pints and the full story later I wanted to congratulate the copper that emptied his cabinet. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Sorry, there may be some confusion here - is the above directed at me? My experience is 100% confirmed...and I was not doubting the one you mentioned. Regards, Gixer No i was the one that was confused. apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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