Night blaster Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Evening all, My clulite has finally reached the end of it's life. Now this may seem like a silly question both deben & light force seem to have the same 140 & 170. However, I have been looking at the bigger deben 210 and the light force 240, are these the same size or different?? Is one better than the other or are they the same lamp? I will be going for variable power, lamp + red filter. I would appreciate your experience and knowledge of which one to go for and the best place to purchase from?? PM if you have a decent SH you are looking to get rid of. Would consider a 170 variable + filter Cheers NB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx3 clay breaker Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Ive got the tracer 140 can't fault it and uses less power than a lightforce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night blaster Posted October 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 I could do with something with maximum light for big fields and will be running from a vehicle, so power consumption isn't a issue. But cheers for the reply SX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 simple answer is one is a copy of the other basically, I've no experience of the deben but have had lightforces for years. Yes eventually you have wiring problems but thats understandable with the use. 15 minutes with a soldering iron sorts them though, I can safely say you won't regret buying one but no idea if the deben would be just as good or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olliesims Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 I have a deben tracer max but no longer use after buying a lightforce its better lamp that's more adjustable to make the beam higher or lower what I could never do with the deben making it easy for me to get rid of any moderator glare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night blaster Posted October 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Al4x what size light force do you generally use? I was after the 210 or 240 variable, so I've got the range but can turn it down for close stuff or when I've got a Charlie on, I find a red filter tends to zapp abit of range. But starting to consider a 170 Cheers NB I have a deben tracer max but no longer use after buying a lightforce its better lamp that's more adjustable to make the beam higher or lower what I could never do with the deben making it easy for me to get rid of any moderator glare Where did you get yours from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Al4x what size light force do you generally use? I was after the 210 or 240 variable, so I've got the range but can turn it down for close stuff or when I've got a Charlie on, I find a red filter tends to zapp abit of range. But starting to consider a 170 Cheers NB Where did you get yours from? Go with a 170 with an amber filter Hate red filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night blaster Posted October 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Go with a 170 with an amber filter Hate red filters Any reason why? I have always got on well with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Get a lot more distance and a better ID under Amber mate Try it im sure you will be suprised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night blaster Posted October 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Get a lot more distance and a better ID under Amber mate Try it im sure you will be suprised I think I will, worth a try and breaks the cycle for the old wise ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 I think I will, worth a try and breaks the cycle for the old wise ones. If you don't like it i will pay for the filter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Evening all, My clulite has finally reached the end of it's life. Now this may seem like a silly question both deben & light force seem to have the same 140 & 170. However, I have been looking at the bigger deben 210 and the light force 240, are these the same size or different?? Is one better than the other or are they the same lamp? I will be going for variable power, lamp + red filter. I would appreciate your experience and knowledge of which one to go for and the best place to purchase from?? PM if you have a decent SH you are looking to get rid of. Would consider a 170 variable + filter Cheers NB Over the last 15 months I have been helping out lamping for a guy who uses an LF 240, because his pens are isolated so he has to try and kill them when he can. So if they are quite far out his 22-250 from a roof platform and with plenty of light from the 240 it works very well 250 yds plus on the red filter. I use a LF 170 gun mounted and hand held on foot off sticks. Both very good lamps…. TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night blaster Posted October 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Over the last 15 months I have been helping out lamping for a guy who uses an LF 240, because his pens are isolated so he has to try and kill them when he can. So if they are quite far out his 22-250 from a roof platform and with plenty of light from the 240 it works very well 250 yds plus on the red filter. I use a LF 170 gun mounted and hand held on foot off sticks. Both very good lamps…. TEH Cheers for the advice, We only lamp from a vehicle so I should be able to get away with the lf240 and tweak it down when needed. Cheers NB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Funnily enough having had few lf problems broke both mine tonight so ended out with an led torch utter sheite but we did get one more by luck than judgement. Usually though we lamp without a filter on foxes and once spotted the lamp is straight off them then dimmed to the absolute minimum while we call then increase for the shot. A 170 is as much as you need like this as you can see them at 500 plus yards. A filter drops that a lot really the only time we do use a filter is rabbiting when it makes a big difference but you can still see them at we'll over 100 yards. A 240 will be a bonus with a filter but they are fairly cumbersome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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