Labrador killed by a seal

[storme37]

Absolutely as long as you have permission or live in Scotland.

please clarify if you live in scotland you can shoot on a beach that nobody gave permission and could have members of the public on it, sorry if i sound thick, i am

[-Mongrel-]

From the BASC wildfowlers code of conduct;

 

 

In Scotland the foreshore is the area of land between the high and low water marks of ordinary spring tides. In Scotland, whether the foreshore is Crown or private ownership, the Crown retains in trust certain rights on the foreshore (except Orkey and Shetland) by virtue of which members of the public may engage in wildfowling. The public right may, in certain cases, be taken away by statute, e.g. nature reserves. The onus is on the wildfowler to establish whether such reserves exist. There is no shooting of wildfowl in Scotland on Sundays or Christmas day.

 

In short, so long as it isn't a nature reserve, you can legally shoot between the high and low water marks of Scottish foreshore.

 

Whether you would want to shoot on a busy beach, or even whether it would be wise is your decision to make as a responsible shooter.

Edited October 11, 2012 by -Mongrel-

[ack-ack]

please clarify if you live in scotland you can shoot on a beach that nobody gave permission and could have members of the public on it, sorry if i sound thick, i am

 

I'm quite intersted in this one. I know the Law in the field but foreshore is a very grey area for me.

[Paul T]

I'm quite intersted in this one. I know the Law in the field but foreshore is a very grey area for me.

Oil pollution?

 

Joking aside it's pretty straightforward really: Foreshore may mean 'beach' but usually it's a desolate part of the estuary or coast that is frequented by wildfowl feeding out on the tidal mud. So, yes you can shoot out on the foreshore in Scotland without permission, but it isn't amongst families building sandcastles on a beach.

 

In England there are various options to go shooting out on the foreshore, but it will involve getting some permission somewhere. Again, it's usually somewhere pretty muddy and marshy which is attractive to the birds. I've bumped into a couple of fishermen and a couple of other fowlers when walking to a site, but never seen members of the public out at dawn/dusk.

[ack-ack]

Oil pollution?

 

Joking aside it's pretty straightforward really: Foreshore may mean 'beach' but usually it's a desolate part of the estuary or coast that is frequented by wildfowl feeding out on the tidal mud. So, yes you can shoot out on the foreshore in Scotland without permission, but it isn't amongst families building sandcastles on a beach.

 

In England there are various options to go shooting out on the foreshore, but it will involve getting some permission somewhere. Again, it's usually somewhere pretty muddy and marshy which is attractive to the birds. I've bumped into a couple of fishermen and a couple of other fowlers when walking to a site, but never seen members of the public out at dawn/dusk.

 

So in the UK is it Byelaw controlled or are there areas where you can just pitch up for a bit of sport?

[daz2202]

I cannot believe the comments under the main story by the dope daily mail readers,

 

1 comment slates the guy for going out shooting in the dark!!! And another reads that he was slaughtering ducks and deserves to die !!!

 

******* townie ******* that think meat walks into a supermarket and jumps onto a polystyrene plate.

[-Mongrel-]

So in the UK is it Byelaw controlled or are there areas where you can just pitch up for a bit of sport?

 

No, In England and Wales all land including the foreshore is owned by someone, and as such you need permission to shoot. Foreshore is defined as the area of the coast or tidal estuary between the mean high and low water marks. That is any area. In theory, with permission you could shoot on Camber sands below the high water mark. In practice it's almost invariably marshland because that's where the wildfowl are.

 

That said, there are areas I shoot which are on the beach! The birds flight between some very large lakes and the marsh areas, but what I'm stood on is the seaward side of the sea wall and it's a gravel type beach. Perfectly legitimate.

Edited October 11, 2012 by -Mongrel-

[storme37]

Oil pollution?

 

Joking aside it's pretty straightforward really: Foreshore may mean 'beach' but usually it's a desolate part of the estuary or coast that is frequented by wildfowl feeding out on the tidal mud. So, yes you can shoot out on the foreshore in Scotland without permission, but it isn't amongst families building sandcastles on a beach.

 

In England there are various options to go shooting out on the foreshore, but it will involve getting some permission somewhere. Again, it's usually somewhere pretty muddy and marshy which is attractive to the birds. I've bumped into a couple of fishermen and a couple of other fowlers when walking to a site, but never seen members of the public out at dawn/dusk.

very interesting thank you

[-Mongrel-]

I've bumped into a couple of fishermen and a couple of other fowlers when walking to a site, but never seen members of the public out at dawn/dusk.

 

You should consider yourself very lucky. It's more than common to meet dog walkers and twitchers on the wander around the harbour. Joys of living in the South East!

[ack-ack]

You should consider yourself very lucky. It's more than common to meet dog walkers and twitchers on the wander around the harbour.

 

Sounds like fun!!!

Edited October 12, 2012 by ack-ack

[DIVERD]

I know the shooter and location well. It is actually a large estuary, of the river Ythan in Aberdeenshire. It is a wide basin and has excellent shooting from time to time i am told. I have not actually shot it myself, but shooting is quite legal as long as you are below the high tide mark i believe.

 

The shooting takes place as the light fades, and the wildfowl come in to roost on the water. The seals rest in the river as it opens into the sea, but also go quite a distance upstream, into the brackish water. There will be no jellyfish or sharks, it is too fresh, but he seals are there in huge numbers, further down from the shooting area there can be literally hundreds hauled out.

 

The seal attacked and horribly mauled the Dog, and after swimming / wading out to rescue it and getting it back to shore he knew it had fatal wounds. He shot it to put it out of its misery.

 

I feel really sorry for him, he is a good young lad. During the day in summer folks play in the water and walk dogs, so with unnaturally large numbers of seals i am sure this will happen again.

[coyotemaster]

A tragedy to be sure whenever one loses such a valued companion. The same happens here on occasion with Alligators in the southern states. It is hard to recall a dog from a mark and if the gator sees the Lab there is no helping it. There have been incidents of children being taken and that happens infrequently but still does occur.

One of the more enlightening things to me was the sentiments expressed under the story, I didn't read them all but it appears that the anti-hunting sentiment there is alive and well as it is here. As has been said some people think that the meats they eat were put forth by divine intervention, I do my own killing and don't apologise for it. It is a known fact that wildlife is not a bankable commodity and a certain percentage will perish whether used or not. In this country especially the larger cities it is getting so far removed from nature that hunters are looked upon with disdain--as if it were a character flaw indicating some sort of malevolence.