russuk Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Are there any problems with me applying for a SGC and having my gun stored somewhere else in the country. I live in the lancashire area, and wish my shotgun to be stored with my father-in-laws guns in Cornwall. He is a SGC and FAC holder. How do I go about proving to my firearms officer that the location that I will be storing my gun is safe/secure enough for me to be granted a lisence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Assuming that you have no convictions, you could apply for your SGC, although I think the Firearms officer might take a dim view if you propose that your guns will be in another county that somebody else will be looking after. Firstly does your Father-in-Law have enough room to store a gun, if the answer to this is yes and providing it is only SGC and not FAC, then why not ask him to put the gun on his SGC, rather than you spending £50 and not having it. Choose your gun with him there and give him the money to pay for it. However, if you do this you will only be able to shoot in his company as you won't have a SGC, and therefore not be able to shoot in Lancs with your gun without his precense. If you want your gun to shoot locally to you, you will need to put in a cabinet (Loft is best place although only out of the view of casual visitors is required) and then get SGC before buying your gun. Best piece of advice is to phone up and speak to your local Firearms officer in your area and ask him to visit for a chat, get the forms from local police station and fill in with photos, write cheque out and then when he has been round and said it's ok, get the form in ASAP. It will probably take anywhere between 3 weeks and 3 months for it to be processed, but this is likely to be shorter if you have already spoken to your Local Firearms officer. Whatever you decide, best of luck. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poacher Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 then why not ask him to put the gun on his SGC, rather than you spending £50 and not having it. If the guns down in cornwall and presumably you'll use it down their then you may as well not bother applying for a SGC and just use it on your dads ticket in his company....:blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Sufolks answer is too resreictive. Apply for your SGC, and then explain to the enquiry officer that you dont want to store any guns, and that you have access to other guns. This way you can be in legal posession of any shotgun, not just your dads, and can shoot on other land where you have permission and access to a gun. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Sufolks answer is too resreictive. Apply for your SGC, and then explain to the enquiry officer that you dont want to store any guns, and that you have access to other guns. This way you can be in legal posession of any shotgun, not just your dads, and can shoot on other land where you have permission and access to a gun. webber But on the basis that if he gets his license he can then buy a shotgun, the firearms officer isn't go to allow that unless he has a cabinet where he lives. The simply answer is to apply for your SGC and buy a cabinet yourself, that way you can have your gun at all times and take it with you when you travel down etc. I dont' recall there being a different class of SGC that enables you to be able to shoot with any gun, but not entitle you to buy one and store it at home. Am I mistaken?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russuk Posted October 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 But on the basis that if he gets his license he can then buy a shotgun, the firearms officer isn't go to allow that unless he has a cabinet where he lives. The simply answer is to apply for your SGC and buy a cabinet yourself, that way you can have your gun at all times and take it with you when you travel down etc. There lies the problem. I currently reside in a rented property and will be doing for another couple of years, so fitting a gun cabinet is a no no. So the nearest I can do to securing the firearm is to have it in my father-in-laws gun cabinet. Unless anyone has any other ideas? So, basically I won't get a license unless I have a cabinet? If so, I'll just have to resign myself to the fact that I can only shoot in my father-in-laws presence on his land on his ticket. My plan was to store then gun down there, but not shoot with him all the time, as me and my partner spend quite a bit of time down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Sufolks answer is too resreictive. Apply for your SGC, and then explain to the enquiry officer that you dont want to store any guns, and that you have access to other guns. This way you can be in legal posession of any shotgun, not just your dads, and can shoot on other land where you have permission and access to a gun. webber no chance of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Oh, is there not!!! webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Firstly, the holder of a SGC may borrow or hire a shotgun for upto 72 hours without the need to enter it on his certificate. Secondly, if you borrow one for this period there is no requirement to store it in a cabinet. The gun would have to be kept securely as one would if staying in a hotel or visiting friends etc. Thirdly, There is no reason why you can't keep your gun in someone else's cabinet as long as it is on their cert as well as your own. If you look at the SGC application form you will see the question "where will the guns be kept" or words to that effect. This is where people in this situation or those that own more than one property state the address where they store their guns. Hope this helps Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 my father-in-laws guns in Cornwall. He is a SGC and FAC holder. fac holder is the bit to think about. unless russuk is going to apply for one as well, which will create its own problems. Charlie's info is good but the first two parts are irrelevant. the third bit if put another way is the only way to go. but will need a separate cabinet located at the father in laws. will he stand for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Stop *******' about and move to Cornwall much better than Lancs anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Stop *******' about and move to Cornwall much better than Lancs anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleye Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Are there any problems with me applying for a SGC and having my gun stored somewhere else in the country. I live in the lancashire area, and wish my shotgun to be stored with my father-in-laws guns in Cornwall. He is a SGC and FAC holder. How do I go about proving to my firearms officer that the location that I will be storing my gun is safe/secure enough for me to be granted a lisence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleye Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Are there any problems with me applying for a SGC and having my gun stored somewhere else in the country. I live in the lancashire area, and wish my shotgun to be stored with my father-in-laws guns in Cornwall. He is a SGC and FAC holder. How do I go about proving to my firearms officer that the location that I will be storing my gun is safe/secure enough for me to be granted a lisence? Adding to charliet's comments just inform your firearms officer that you will be storing gun at your dads which is same as what my son did and give details on appliction of his certificate number and county they still have to do a home visit to your house just to prove your not a nutter your gun would have to go on both certificates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russuk Posted October 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Are there any problems with me applying for a SGC and having my gun stored somewhere else in the country. I live in the lancashire area, and wish my shotgun to be stored with my father-in-laws guns in Cornwall. He is a SGC and FAC holder. How do I go about proving to my firearms officer that the location that I will be storing my gun is safe/secure enough for me to be granted a lisence? Adding to charliet's comments just inform your firearms officer that you will be storing gun at your dads which is same as what my son did and give details on appliction of his certificate number and county they still have to do a home visit to your house just to prove your not a nutter your gun would have to go on both certificates Thanks eagleeye and everyone . This is all a lot clearer now. I'll let you know how I get on in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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