pointon242 Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 So i christened the new mossy hushpower at the weekend, next on the list is loading some decent shells! I've read through the searched threads and have decided to try one of cookoffs 32g #4 vectan as loads. I have a question for anyone who loads 12g subs... is there any data knocking about for any heavier loads where i could up shot size a bit incase i bump into mr fox? I understand vectan as is on its limit at 32g so would i be looking at a1 possibly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) A1 will do 36g subs in 12gauge my AS recipe was 17 grains, but becomes alittle better and still slow at 18grains AS. it all still fits in the case. there are better powders out there for this application. one of them being hodgdons "titewad" at 16grains per 32g of shot, is subsonic and is a very clean burner. this was my favourite load, the enxt step up to 42 grams would be something like A0 or so. but i would be hesitant to load those unless i have concrete data. i just havent checked. you can up the shotsize up in my subs, i used #4 regularly, can load 2s. after that, going to a bigger recipe 36-42g helps but that makes sense in BB etc. these loads pattern tight, so bigger payload may not be totally nessasary. as for bumping into Mr fox, maybe select the right cartridge, big shot is a must. Edited May 21, 2013 by cookoff013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) go to http://hodgdon.com/ http://data.hodgdon.com/shotshell_load.asp select, 12gauge, 1,1/8oz titewad leadshot, cheddite 2.75 cases. there are multiple recipes out there for subs. Titewad being one hell of a powder to do this. Edited May 21, 2013 by cookoff013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Ihave data for two 36 gram subsonic loads i used when i had my laporte swing trap, these use alliant powder s if you are interested let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00buck Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 I could do with 12 and 20 sub load data Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon242 Posted May 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Thanks cookoff, im waiting on an order of AS at the minute as i was being a tight **** and trying to save a bit! But if titewad is as good as you say then i may try that next. I was only looking to load a few shells with a bigger shot size to keep as a 'just incase' shell. If i was to load a few 32g with bb shot im guessing i would struggle loading them into the 2.75 cases right? BB, i'll have a look at those if you wouldnt mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 A1 will do 36g subs my AS recipe was 17 grains, but becomes alittle better and still slow at 18grains AS. it all still fits in the case. there are better powders out there for this application. one of them being hodgdons "titewad" at 16grains per 32g of shot, is subsonic and is a very clean burner. this was my favourite load, the enxt step up to 42 grams would be something like A0 or so. but i would be hesitant to load those unless i have concrete data. i just havent checked. you can up the shotsize up in my subs, i used #4 regularly, can load 2s. after that, going to a bigger recipe 36-42g helps but that makes sense in BB etc. these loads pattern tight, so bigger payload may not be totally nessasary. as for bumping into Mr fox, maybe select the right cartridge, big shot is a must. oops ! eddited. in red.... sorry guys. as for the BB issue, they should fit in the case, if mesured from a machine, as the volume is the same, if you weigh it. it may be alittle fat in the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Bear in mind that because Hushpowers bleed off the propellant gases the velocities can drop a fair bit compared to a normal gun and that because they are already subsonic this amount can be significant. This is why I tailor make my subsonics to suit my particular gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon242 Posted May 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 thanks for all the info, its a big help as theres so much to learn with reloading. would you suggest running them through a chrono to see how they perform in my gun then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 thanks for all the info, its a big help as theres so much to learn with reloading. would you suggest running them through a chrono to see how they perform in my gun then? nah, i`d be more enclined to just reload them then use them, as for the chrono issue, i wouldnt bother, just because it can lead to false readings. as for the differences, between gun and hushpower systems, just live with it. the bigger the shot the less picky you can be with speed. #6 isnt great for subs, thats even if it gets to the target, there is no oomph to drop it right there.(40+yards) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon242 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 Ok cheers cook, i'll stick to the 18gr as recipe. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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