funkey monkey Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 hello i am applying for a variation for a .223 for fox control in the avon and somerset area after having my licence 18 month now. is it the norm to be asked to be supervised? (mentor condition) or do a firearms awareness corse for such caliber?? If so can anyone recomend a corse? many thanks sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 I believe that they do apply the mentor condition as standard now if you have no CF experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) If you have had FAC for 18 months then you're not exactly inexperienced.The only difference between rim fire and centre-fire is the ranges over which a person can shoot and the size of the quarry.all safety applications relevant to cf are also relevant to rf, so I fail to logically see how mentoring can be applied.I would get in touch with my shooting organisation.isnt this one of those unreasonable or unnecessary conditions recently mentioned in a post started by a BASC representative?If all else fails I'm sure they could recommend a course you can sit. Edited June 3, 2013 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb79 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 I have had my FAC for about a year. I have just had a .223 added to my .22lr and .17hmr FAC with no mentoring conditions - I even offered to have a mentor in return for an open FAC! They returned it with .223, all opened up and no mentor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Probably your best bet is just to phone them up and ask them what the crack is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Different areas have different views on "mentoring" but I think that it is starting to become the "norm" for most areas to slap a "Mentoring Condition" for far too many first time centre fire applications. I would agree that it doesn't make sense for someone who has a reasonable amount of rimfire experience but that is the way that things are looking nowadays. It might (To a certain extent) be avoided if you can show through an experienced centre fire shooter that you already have plenty of experience with rimfores and a first class knowledge of all aspects of firearms safety. To a certain extent this mentoring idea has unfortunately become a bit of a "post code lottery"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkey monkey Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Well I would have no problem with a mentor if I knew someone. And as for a days course I can't logically see their is a great deal of safety to learn between a rimfire and centrefire ( not to sound cocky) as surely a back stop is a back stop regardless of caliber. And safe handling applies to all firearms / shotgun etc . . I have contacted basc and are proving usefull Many thanks sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 This seems to be A&S policy. Every first time c/f applicant I have heard of has had a mentoring condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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