throdgrain Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 I've just bought one of these guns, first auto loader for a while, and I've not had the chance to fire it yet (until Sunday) so I'm sitting here in the garden trying to load shells into the magazine. I had an 1100 a few years ago, so I'm fairly familiar with it.But, I pull back the bolt to load the first shell, close the bolt with the button on the carrier assembly, but the shell will not go into the magazine.Closer inspection shows that the cartridge interceptor latch is still up. I can pull this down with my finger, and the shell goes in no problem. Then I rack the slide to remove the first shell from the chamber (can't fire it in my garden!) and load the shell from the magazine. Rack the slide again and remove the shell.Then start again, but the interceptor has not moved, so I have to pull it down with my finger again. Is this because there has been no recoil as I haven't fired the gun? Or is it because it's stiff from still from being new? (I don't recall this problem with my 1100) or is there a problem with it? On reflection, I think the interceptor is supposed to move when I push the button on the carrier assembly, but I'm not sure.I hope not, it's a long drive back to the shop! Any help out there please guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Things could be a little stiff from being new, but it may not work exactly right by racking the bolt handle, thoughrly clean off any storage lubricant and shoot a few 32 gram game loads from a half decent cartridge company and see how it runs, my guess it will be fine, and stop fiddling and worrying about it. A briliant choice of gun by the way Remingtons are awesome and still one of the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 I don't understand,,,,, when you say "magazine" do you mean chamber? Does it lock the bolt back? You should be able to drop a round in and release the bolt. Then load the mag. On firing or the drop of the hammer it releases the mag stop to release the next round in battery. I always understood that the thrust from the mag spring on the next shell tripped the carrier mech to feed the next round up when the bolt clears the way. I would shoot it first! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted June 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Magazine, I mean magazine. Have a re-read Underdog mate, I hope you can see what I mean! I just took it up my mates field and fired a few rounds, it fires and cycles the second round fine, but then when you reload (yes, by dropping one into the chamber, closing the chamber then pushing the second cart into the Magazine) the second cart wont go in because the interceptor is up, blocking the cart. @ BB cheers mate, I love them, bought this one as it appears to have exactly the same dimensions as my beloved Wingmaster, but will be a bit easier for "semi" serious simo clay pairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Sorry. Got me beat that, in the instructions I see no mention of an interceptor. Only a carrier release and cartridge stop! How many have you rattled through it? U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted June 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 If you look in the exploded diagram the stop is called an interceptor.It's part number 60 I think. I've only fired it 4 times - just now, maybe it will settle down ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Right! So the part that stops a cartridge from leaving the mag is not moving out the way enough to allow a top up of the mag? If so that is wrong! Something must be blocking it! Take the trigger out and see if you can press it freely into the reciever. Thats what I would do next (if I understand correctly). U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted June 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Indeed. The stop moves on a (sprung?) axis, that you can move with your finger. Well, it's post #8, at least we've agreed that something is wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRYAN3 Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 I have 5 shot and I love it. The only time its been a problem was when the O ring gave up,so now I have a couple of spares in my wallet 24/7. It has never refused to cycle and takes all cartridges in any order. I might suggest that you degrease and re-lube. Who knows? it could just be a bit of swarf or a burr causing the trouble. Anyway,good luck with it. Bryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Magazine cut off leaver or interceptor latch held on by a small circlp and has a spring on the axis, it locates circlips on to a post that is part of the action frame. It should move freely is it stuck or assembled wrongly, ? Load the gun like this pull back bolt it will lock back drop shell in port depress release button on botom ramp, bolt will fly home chamber round then feed two in the magazine fire a shot it will eject and chamber another round fire another it will do the same, fire a third it will eject and the bolt will stay locked back, if you cant opperate it in this way take the gun back to the supliers and have them fix it if its new. if its old we need pictures. Edited June 24, 2013 by B B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted June 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 This is what I'm saying mate the stop can be moved by a finger but should move when you close the bolt to allow cartridges into the magazine. I'm familiar with it after owning an 1100 for a couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Dose the latch look like the one in the picture above they break the back spur off now and again. Edited June 24, 2013 by B B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Excellent photos! Didna doubt something may be wrong. Process of elimination and fully understanding the problem was what I was about :-). Good luck. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) I think the back spur of the latch will be broken in half or off completly, what i am a bit confused about is in the opening post it sounds like the 1187 refered to is new! ..But may be i understood it wrong i duno, if by any chance it is new get it bact to edgars get them to fix it free of charge. If its used the latch wears the pivot hole oval and it can hinder opperation but more ussual the movement works the circlip off and its game over the pivot post can wear and the circlip grove as well this makes repair short term in some cases and its not generaly long untill a warn grove ends in yet another breakdown, the solution is to weld in a new pivot post this as to be very accuratly done and naturaly there is some refinishing to be done on the reciever to do the job properly, many old 1100s have budged pivot posts on them saw one such gun in use for years with an ugly brazed repar to this area but it did keep working regardless. Remingtons are brilliant guns. Edited June 25, 2013 by B B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted June 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Magazine cut off leaver or interceptor latch held on by a small circlp and has a spring on the axis, it locates circlips on to a post that is part of the action frame. It should move freely is it stuck or assembled wrongly, ? Load the gun like this pull back bolt it will lock back drop shell in port depress release button on botom ramp, bolt will fly home chamber round then feed two in the magazine fire a shot it will eject and chamber another round fire another it will do the same, fire a third it will eject and the bolt will stay locked back, if you cant opperate it in this way take the gun back to the supliers and have them fix it if its new. if its old we need pictures. Nice one BB , yeah that is exactly the problem. The "latch" is moving up and down, but only when I push it. I'm actually removing the trigger as I type this. Yes, the gun is brand new. Edited June 25, 2013 by throdgrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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