Gimlet Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Can I pick your brains - again - on a new bike? I'm after a big but practical naked I can have a laugh on or use for weekend trips away. I had wanted to stick to twins. I'd love a Motomorini Veloce but that would mean a new one and I don't trust the factory not to go belly up again, so, sadly, that's out. Don't want a soft Monster or a track Ducati with a tiny tank or anything too hard to live with, and I can't afford to buy or fuel a Diavel. I've upped the budget to £7000, thrown Triumphs into the hat and norrowed it down to these two. V4 Tuono is out because of appalling fuel consumption and tank range. How does the twin compare? And which Speed Triple is the best model. I think the 2010 model is better looking than the recent ones. Any real life difference on the road? Yes I know I should be on a bike forum... B) but I'm here now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Sounds like you have discounted the Ducati's but how about the Multistrada? Didn't like them to start with but they are a pretty nippy bit of kit, comfortable to ride and you can oik up some impressive wheelies no problem! There are some decidedly "not soft" monsters available now with some real head banger 4 valve water cooled motors. TBH I'm never sold on true naked bikes to do any serious mileage, been all over Europe on the ST2 and later the ST3 (which I still have) Both are sport tourers and pretty competent bikes which you can pick up second hand at good prices. Buying new is OK but you take a striping on the price the minute it is off the forecourt. Be interested to hear what you go for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Moto-Guzzi V7? - bang on your budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Mother Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 It's horses for courses really. They are both excellent bikes. The Tuono is very much more an untamed beast but a good bike nonetheless. They are generally reliable but can start looking tatty quickly. The later v-twin is a lovely looking machine with the high level twin pipes. They can be heavy on the fuel so that may be a factor. The Speed Triple is excellent and you know that Triumph will always be around. The motor is bulletproof as long as you keep the battery in good order and maintain it. The motor is good for 100,000+ miles. I can get 65mpg on a run on my Speed Triple. One big factor is likely to be your size and build and the sizes of the bikes are quite different. Also, power delivery is quite different too. This is me on Saturday. B) B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted August 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Thanks AM. That's useful to know. Finish is an issue, so is reliability and fuel economy. I want ride the thing. A lot. There are plenty of both bikes for sale S/H. I did wonder whether like me, people loved the idea but found the reality less practical as Old Rooster suggests. How's your triple for all day riding? I'm 5' 11", 13 stone, average build, normal shape. I do like Ducatis, I had a 906 in a former life. Its finnicky I know, but I'm not keen on the looks of the Multistradas and servicing might be an issue down here nowadays. I got my fingers badly burned with Ducati servicing costs last time round. I'd like 130+ bhp or there abouts and plenty of torque because I know from past experience that with that combination the bike will always be faster than me and you rarely get tired of such bikes. I don't think the Guzzi or an ST2 will give me enough go. When I bought the 906 I had test rode a Mk V Le Mans beforehand which was cheaper, but I went for the Ducati because it was a lot more exciting to ride. Someone pointed out recently that if I'd bought that Le Mans and kept it, it would be worth twice as much as the Ducati by now and could nearly have funded the new bike on its own. Youth is wasted on the young... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mda998 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 go for a z1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 I'm 5' 11", 13 stone, average build, normal shape. Maybe on a biking forum, certainly not on a shooting forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Thats one of the funnier posts I've seen on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Mother Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Maybe on a biking forum, certainly not on a shooting forum You obviously didn't pay attention to my photos then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Mother Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Thanks AM. That's useful to know. Finish is an issue, so is reliability and fuel economy. I want ride the thing. A lot. There are plenty of both bikes for sale S/H. I did wonder whether like me, people loved the idea but found the reality less practical as Old Rooster suggests. How's your triple for all day riding? I'm 5' 11", 13 stone, average build, normal shape. I do like Ducatis, I had a 906 in a former life. Its finnicky I know, but I'm not keen on the looks of the Multistradas and servicing might be an issue down here nowadays. I got my fingers badly burned with Ducati servicing costs last time round. I'd like 130+ bhp or there abouts and plenty of torque because I know from past experience that with that combination the bike will always be faster than me and you rarely get tired of such bikes. I don't think the Guzzi or an ST2 will give me enough go. When I bought the 906 I had test rode a Mk V Le Mans beforehand which was cheaper, but I went for the Ducati because it was a lot more exciting to ride. Someone pointed out recently that if I'd bought that Le Mans and kept it, it would be worth twice as much as the Ducati by now and could nearly have funded the new bike on its own. Youth is wasted on the young... I'm 5'10" and over 13 stone . It is very comfortable. I only start to get restless bum cheeks after 3 to 4 hours, I've only got the standard seat though. I know people who regularly tour all over Europe on them. On the trackday on saturday I averaged 21.2mpg. I thrashed hell out of it and the bike only rewarded me for it. As said, take it easy and it returns much more. I initially looked at S4Rs and S2Rs to replace my Daytona 955i, however, the poor finish and servicing requirements put me off. My bike is a 2007 with 26,000 miles on it. Here is the finish after that much time (please note, the bike is new to me (6 weeks) and the last owner didn't look after it as well as I would have, the finish is still great though). I think it still looks good. I think the best thing you can do is go to a dealership with both bikes and ride them back to back. One may suit you better than the other. Both the Tuono and the Speed Triple have the grin factor and awesome sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Mother Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Oh, and I get about 150-160 miles per tank. I believe that a Tuono will give you 90-120. On your question as to which Speed Triple, I prefer the look of the 2005-2007 or 2008-2011, the 2011> bike is supposed to ride better. How much better I don't now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Thanks again, AM. Yes your bike does look good. Can't fault the way the finish has held up. I'd be happy with that. I will get to a dealer and see how Tuonos with similar mileages are looking. I went to look at a Motomorini Corsaro (the bike I really wanted) with 11000 dry miles on the clock and the lacquer on the engine cases had blistered badly and was flaking off. That put me off as well. The triumph is looking a strong contender and I gather there's no end of aftermarket stuff available for them and, as far as I know, they're still made in Britain. (For now..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Mother Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Loads of aftermarket stuff yes. Some of it can be expensive but it's soooo very nice. There's quite a few resources for help and assistance with Triumphs, plus free software to allow servicing and remapping. They are still made in Hinckley, Lincolnshire. Some componentry and assembly is in Thailand though. Aprilia may have similair aftermarket availability and support, I don't know. As you can see, I'm somewhat biased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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