Dbw1shrops Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Hi all just got back from the field and the air has dropped out of the air bags and won't go back up I've tried the fuse num 28 and that was fine does anyone know anything about this problem my mind is telling me the air compressor is knacked !? Looks like I'm without a car tomorrow unless there is a way round it any input will be helpful cheers Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 i take it ....that it is a disco ?.......if so it might be the self levvelling sensor arms, they are made out of plastic and have micro switches in them...mine went when i had an 02 plate disco....bags went down....i think they are about £12.00 each to replace...check that first........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbw1shrops Posted September 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Ok yeah it's a disco and 02 ! Where about are they ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 it is or they are a swinging arm between the back axel and the chassis............one each side........you can get at them without taking the wheel off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbw1shrops Posted September 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Not sure if I drove the car home like it ? I put the air suspension on for the fields when I come to the the roadside turned it off ! Hope it hasn't done any more damage ! Sure I would of felt it though being so low at the back !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 if i remember right......the air suspension is only a load levelling device, to be used when you have put a heavy load in the wagon and it needs to go back to the right ride height.....so you press the button and it goes ding ding ding...and it levels out if your compressor has gone it will be making a nasty noise and will cost £ 500.00 plus to replace......i think the problem rests with either the load sensors or the wagon needs to go on the old computor and be reset...........apart from that i cant help you anymore...have you checked the load sensors, all you need is a torch, just check the wies are still attatched and the plugs havnt come out.......let us know how you get on...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampro Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) I would go for load sensors mate, the suspension should level itself back down when you get to 20 mph, if its gone further the sensors are bust or just take of the plastic box on the compresser, its situated on the passenger side under the sill, there are 3 tubes 1 for in and 2 for out check to see if there tight, if the compressers knacked get a spring set for £80 of flea bay and replace the air bag suspension allot cheaper and you wont get the problem again, but firstly check the sensors right hand side of the back wheels plastic arms good luck go onto landy zone furom uk they will have a workshop manuel and advise if you get stuck Edited September 22, 2013 by lampro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldypurple Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 It probably the compressor, easy enough to replace, only about 2 bolts and a couple of hoses to change, buy one off Ebay they go for anything between £30 and £400, last one I bought on eBay was £50 and worked a treat. I'd lay money on being compressor If you decide to change the bags for springs, don't forget to notify your insurance as its classes as a modification!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampro Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 It probably the compressor, easy enough to replace, only about 2 bolts and a couple of hoses to change, buy one off Ebay they go for anything between £30 and £400, last one I bought on eBay was £50 and worked a treat. I'd lay money on being compressor If you decide to change the bags for springs, don't forget to notify your insurance as its classes as a modification!!!! good point regarding the spring change, I havnt done it myself I replaced my bags last month when one blue on me, Dunlop got them from rimmer bro easy to fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbw1shrops Posted September 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Just been and checked it and the passenger side load arm plastic bar is broke I guess it's just 2 bolts to take it off then on with a new one ? Thanks to all your comments I will sleep a bit easier tonight knowing its not going to break the bank lol cheers guys your all stars ! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampro Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Well done all the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbw1shrops Posted September 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 I've been quoted £44 for the part does this sound about right ? Not sure if its non gen or gen ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 I've been quoted £44 for the part does this sound about right ? Not sure if its non gen or gen ?? that sounds really expensive.......go onto paddocks website......or landroverspares............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbw1shrops Posted September 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 I've rang a couple of others craddocks and salop 4x4 and there saying £33 + vat but by the time I've travelled there its going to cost me the extra in fuel ! But I will have a look see at the one you've suggested cheers DM 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampro Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 rimmer bro give them a go or ebay £12 each Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampro Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 just looked second hand skan 4x4 on ebay £12.50 or £26.95 new from lr spares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Carrot Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 I had this problem about 6m ago. As a temporary measure you can jack up the offending wheel, set the arm to a middle ish height the tape up the hanging bit (I'm assuming it's the bottom bracket that's snapped) and it'll stay roughly level. That price from paddocks sounds about right. When changing, don't forget to disconnect the battery before disconnecting the Connector on the sensor, and be aware that it's brittle as hell. If you need any help give me a shout. I'll scan/ photograph the Haynes pages. Not a complicated job, although mine needs to go on a nanocom for re calibration, sits slightly wonky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 if i remember right......the air suspension is only a load levelling device, to be used when you have put a heavy load in the wagon and it needs to go back to the right ride height.....so you press the button and it goes ding ding ding...and it levels out if your compressor has gone it will be making a nasty noise and will cost £ 500.00 plus to replace......i think the problem rests with either the load sensors or the wagon needs to go on the old computor and be reset...........apart from that i cant help you anymore...have you checked the load sensors, all you need is a torch, just check the wies are still attatched and the plugs havnt come out.......let us know how you get on...... suspension is self levelling and will reset to normal ride height at normal road speed (cant remember what it is though). If your compressor has gone, island 4x4 do them about £270 each IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbw1shrops Posted September 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 So what is the name of the part you put in the search bar ? I've been putting self levelling load sensor and I got 34 pages of sensors on paddocks website Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbw1shrops Posted September 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 I had this problem about 6m ago. As a temporary measure you can jack up the offending wheel, set the arm to a middle ish height the tape up the hanging bit (I'm assuming it's the bottom bracket that's snapped) and it'll stay roughly level. That price from paddocks sounds about right. When changing, don't forget to disconnect the battery before disconnecting the Connector on the sensor, and be aware that it's brittle as hell. If you need any help give me a shout. I'll scan/ photograph the Haynes pages. Not a complicated job, although mine needs to go on a nanocom for re calibration, sits slightly wonky I've got the Haynes manual would you be so kind as to tell me the page number ? Thanks Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 I've got the Haynes manual would you be so kind as to tell me the page number ? Thanks Dave what capt carrot says is spot on........the plastic is brittle as hell so be careful.......been there seen it dont it .....doooohhh....**** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Replace the damn things with manual type, turn off the engine light, no more **** from them, job done: My mates done his, the bloke turned it off in the menu for nothing as he bought the parts from him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Replace the damn things with manual type, turn off the engine light, no more **** from them, job done: My mates done his, the bloke turned it off in the menu for nothing as he bought the parts from him.. Sorry to double reply But... It Is a Conversion Kit for them: I believe about £110:00 . Never have any more trouble with it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbw1shrops Posted September 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Sorry to double reply But... It Is a Conversion Kit for them: I believe about £110:00 . Never have any more trouble with it.. Will think about this if I get a problem with the air bags I won't speak to soon lol thanks Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 . Will think about this if I get a problem with the air bags I won't speak to soon lol thanksDave To all you lads with these vehicles, get this done you will not regret it, imagine the pipes, compressors and all the trouble if you don`t.. Citroen cars are just as bad for this, costs a fortune to replace pipes etc. I think they advertise on flea*** . anyway LOOK it Up.. but you do have to have it TURNED OFF in the Menu on the car, otherwise you an engine looking at you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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