motty Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 That is the daftest piece of advice I have read in years. What the hell is 'just the right amount of lead' supposed to be - Perfection on day one? I have been trying to do that for 60 years. I was trying to say there is no point in giving a goose more lead than you think. The amount of lead you think may be spot on ,therefore meaning a miss in front!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler325 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) I was trying to say there is no point in giving a goose more lead than you think. The amount of lead you think may be spot on ,therefore meaning a miss in front!! I dont agree. " the amount of lead you think may be spot on" how the hell will you know? Its better to be infront of a goose and hit it in the head and kil it clean rather than not giving enough lead and pricking the bird by hitting it in the body! I'd rather miss infront of a goose than pricking the bird and having it fly on after being hit! Edited October 18, 2013 by Wildfowler325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted October 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 Cheers for the lead tips but I'm more of an instinktive ( can't spell) shooter, must of the lead I give is spot on but I relise ypu need a bit more lead the speed there going at is discieving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 I dont agree. " the amount of lead you think may be spot on" how the hell will you know? Its better to be infront of a goose and hit it in the head and kil it clean rather than not giving enough lead and pricking the bird by hitting it in the body! I'd rather miss infront of a goose than pricking the bird and having it fly on after being hit! Well, going by your logic, there isn't much point in relying on the experience gained from years of shooting and seeing lead. We might as well all just throw the gun way in front of every goose and hope for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler325 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Well, going by your logic, there isn't much point in relying on the experience gained from years of shooting and seeing lead. We might as well all just throw the gun way in front of every goose and hope for the best. Dont think so mate! Iv been fowling longer than you and i know how to shoot geese! Over the year iv shot thousands of geese. I remember 16 year ago i shot 49 geese myself on a single evening flight. Think i know how much lead to give geese, im not just throwing the gun infront of geese but im far enough infront to hit and kill the goose which most people may think is too much lead. Some geese i gave around 12-15ft of lead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Just a wee thought. You can actually let geese too close. I'd be more likely to hit a goose at 55 yards than 20 yards. Think its purely because of a poorer pattern at close range and the fact that they look a lot slower than the are. Need a good bit of lead.. Get out down the marsh as much as you can, even if its without a gun for a walk. Once you know the ground you will have far more success. Make a note of were flight lines/ birds are in different conditions e.g weather conditions, tide and build up a little database of information, patterns will soon emerge... so you will know where to be next time! Good luck! Spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Dont think so mate! Iv been fowling longer than you and i know how to shoot geese! Over the year iv shot thousands of geese. I remember 16 year ago i shot 49 geese myself on a single evening flight. Think i know how much lead to give geese, im not just throwing the gun infront of geese but im far enough infront to hit and kill the goose which most people may think is too much lead. Some geese i gave around 12-15ft of lead! Would you like a medal? This post pretty much contradicts your earlier post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barls2-9-12 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Why would someone want to shoot 49 geese on one flight a bit over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) I have always found low ( 15 yard high ) head on greylags a difficult shot. There is a tendancy to let them come into you and rise for the shot at 25-30 yards and by the time the gun is on the bird it is over you very fast and all too easy to miss behind. Better to rise for the shot as soon as the greys seem in range at about 50 yards . By the time you have the gun aimed correctly and ready to pull the trigger they will be closer to 30 yards and with any luck after the first shot they will swing aside giving a easy chance with the second barrel. I have never had a problem with low pinks , but being larger birds I suspect greys fly a little faster. I have several times killed a low greylag well infront only for it to hit the ground 40 yards behind me. That gives some idea how fast they can fly. Edited October 21, 2013 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Called 4 greys on top of me today. Got up and the birds were about 20 yards away. Dodgey gun mount and I missed all 3 birds. Should have taken them further out. It's very hard to catch up on your swing when the birds are directly above you as well. Anser2 sums it up vey well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler325 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Why would someone want to shoot 49 geese on one flight a bit over the top. There were around 1000 geese a farmers duck pond. He was needing them shot as they were damaging the crops around the pond. All the geese shot were not wasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barls2-9-12 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Fair point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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