motty

I have made the point many times over the years that a gun doesn't necessarily need a fleur de lis in order to be fine with "HP" steel.

I have some for sale. Lead Winchester etc. Where is local?

I have a load of different bits for sale. I am in Terrington, Norfolk.

Missed this post. Will get some pictures over to you later.

A bit far for you, maybe, but I am going to sell mine. Probably only had 500 shots fired through it. Mine is a synthetic mossberg pump.

Yep. The ones that "consistently" kill 80 yard pheasants have a different definition of the word "consistently" to me! Ie, they are talking a load if old balls!

It is multi choked. It is in very good condition. It has probably fired less than 300 shots since I bought it about 5 years ago. I think it has a small mark on the stock, but nothing major. I have the box for it. All the chokes should be present. I'd be looking for £375 for it. If you're still interested I will take some photos later.

I will be selling my Yildiz o/u .410 3". I am in Terrington, Norfolk.

I thought he talked a fair bit of ****!

I have never had a problem with standing up to look for birds above the net.

They don't ignore them, as such. It is the same as any other crop that a pigeon will eat; they must find them, for starters, then maybe there is something in the area they prefer. That is like me when talking to him!!

**** off! 😁

Judging by many posts on FB, this is most certainly not the case. I have seen many posts of 200+ or 100+ days on recent drillings. I had a bag of 97 on some direct drilled spring wheat a fortnight ago. Drillings will continue to produce good pigeon bags.

Have you been asleep for a few years or something?

Don't ruin your gun by opening the chokes!

I can't agree with that. No one should be stupid enough to use cartridges that are unsuitable for their gun. If a gun owner can't read, then perhaps they should not own a gun.

So if 8 guns have 6 drives in a day, you think an average of 2 birds per gun per drive will leave everyone satisfied? A 36gm steel load would be an ideal load for most pheasants. Why would you suggest it isn't?

If you were happy with them and they work as you want, why did you ask if anyone else had used them? I personally wouldn't buy them unless I had little other choice. Most of my pigeons are killed with an ounce of 7 or an ounce of 6.5. I wouldn't pay £140 a thousand extra for something that does a similar job.

An enjoyable read.

Pigeons can slow down, and clays can speed up.

I totally agree. I was reading all that, hoping I might be educated. I was wrong, sadly.

There isn't a cartridge on sale that won't kill a pigeon. Cheapest doesn't mean worst.

Cheddite.

It is fine to use lead for now, but the future, who knows? Your guns will almost certainly take steel shot.

That could be the answer, unless of course, it is made illegal to be in possession of lead cartridges. The issue would then be the selling of said pigeons. That isn't how things work! The likes of BASC do not make policies.