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They will be fine for 40 yard pheasants.

The police aren't ignorant?

It wouldn't have to be a big estate to release 5000 birds.

Of course only the owner will know the dog. Authors of books know this, too. Do your own thing sounds to me like "don't bother with books".

I hope the dog didn't pick them all! Nice one again, Supertash!

I would go against Gerry's advice, and get a good training book. I have learned a lot from reading about different training methods from a lot of trainers, both here and across the pond.

Of course, it is down to the individual to decide what is safe for them. Steel proofing is just a test that most relatively modern guns would pass. I use three 10 bores, none of which are steel proofed. Am I taking a big risk?

No, you can more than likely pick up a decent 3" for less than £200. I don't really care what BASC have to say on the matter of steel shot.

Now that is taking to the extreme. I would gladly put steel through ANY fairly modern 3" chambered gun, provided it was in decent condition.

Yes, I am referring to hp steel. I shall be taking one of non - steel proofed 10s out tomorrow and putting some hefty hp steel through it (with a bit of luck).

You don't need a steel proofed shotgun to use steel shot cartridges.

Try not stalking them. This is unlikely to help.

Pigeon controller has most success by finding feeding flocks, pushing them away, and waiting for them to return. This obviously works for him, but it never has for me. I have shot several 100 plus bags on winter rape, by turning up and shooting at first light. The action may be over well before lunchtime, but it can be fast and furious.

Have you been smoking something?

I'd be interested in discovering this also. The vote was to leave the EU rather than remain as a member. Under Mays deal we leave the EU and will no longer be a member. I'd be interested in discovering this also. The vote was to leave the EU rather than remain as a member. Under Mays deal we leave the EU and will no longer be a member. Er, no. This is the reason why the deal is set to be voted down. BRINO!

Ok, please tell me in what way May's deal delivers on the referendum result. What exactly have I missed?

Just the kind of early morning 'hit and run' session that I enjoy.

Good question. I can drive the edges of some fields, but obviously not the ones signed as stewardship strips.

Don't worry, Oowee will be along in a minute to tell us that it is!

Very interesting. Several things in there that I was unaware of. Many tales of treachery and deceit.

True, shooting clays well doesn't necessarily mean that one can shoot game well, but it usually does.

I agree to a certain extent, but there is a reason that all of the champions of the clay world use O/Us.

I don't think it really matters too much what your dead birds look like when spinning, as long as they are visible.

I have shot thousands of pigeons over the last 10 years or so with 7.5s. They will easily kill at 40 yards. Therefore, I think it makes more sense to use smaller shot in a lighter load, to get a more dense pattern.

Very nice! I am now starting to miss pigeon shooting.