Amazed Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 It's a sierra 45 hornet (1210) as far as I remember. They have a very wide round nose design. As the mags on the 527 are curved at the front. Your not running a full case @12.8 so squeeze a few and see if it affects it. I would be careful modding the mag though pal if you only need a mil,you can get away with a bit befor the rim drops in to the gap left on the follower. All the best Karl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I use that Seirra bullet in an unmodified 527 mag at std hornet COL no issue bags of room. Hornet cases vary a lot in capacity 12.8 will be compressed for sure with RWS brass and LilGun. I seem to remember I can get 13 in Hornady brass though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) I use that Seirra bullet in an unmodified 527 mag at std hornet COL no issue bags of room. Hornet cases vary a lot in capacity 12.8 will be compressed for sure with RWS brass and LilGun. I seem to remember I can get 13 in Hornady brass thoughHave you checked your case lenght Robert ? They may be due a trim.And have you been checking the col every time ? Just a note that the mags for the 527 were updated, the older style with the feed guides on top have less room in them. Edited April 23, 2014 by Amazed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Have you checked your case lenght Robert ? They may be due a trim. And have you been checking the col every time ? Just a note that the mags for the 527 were updated, the older style with the feed guides on top have less room in them. not sure what you mean by that but why should any company produce a mag that wont easy feed a std spec col for calibre? been out this morn and looking at mine now I have a good 2mm spare in front of a std col 45 grn Seirra. The mag box is the same length as a .223 with a back block suitably added to reduce and help prevent the dreaded lock overs that you get with rimed cases (it nearly does this but not quite ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 not sure what you mean by that but why should any company produce a mag that wont easy feed a std spec col for calibre? been out this morn and looking at mine now I have a good 2mm spare in front of a std col 45 grn Seirra. The mag box is the same length as a .223 with a back block suitably added to reduce and help prevent the dreaded lock overs that you get with rimed cases (it nearly does this but not quite ) Think it's to do with continuous improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Yeah, not getting this Max length for hornet is 1.723" that should fit in all hornet rifle magazines, some might take longer but all should take this. The 45 grain sierra Hornet bullet will seat nicely at this COL. Just adjust things to suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Yeah, not getting this Max length for hornet is 1.723" that should fit in all hornet rifle magazines, some might take longer but all should take this. The 45 grain sierra Hornet bullet will seat nicely at this COL. Just adjust things to suit It's 1.760 with a semi point. This is the older style mag. Which is slightly smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alendil Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 i will mesure my rounds again but as far as i am avare nothing was change since developing thise round. and i do have same mag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 i will mesure my rounds again but as far as i am avare nothing was change since developing thise round. and i do have same mag. Newer style mag with the old one: it's only a few mill smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) It's 1.760 with a semi point. This is the older style mag. Which is slightly smaller. No this (1.7232) is stated industry max COL for hornet (all rounds should be under this) yes some use 40 v-max and the like and need to alter a mag but all hornet specific rounds sold as such will do just fine seated correctly in any Hornet mag. Its why these stds were introduced Edited April 23, 2014 by kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 If you wanted to be really anal you could get it below but it would be a poor load. Cast Lead bullet no gas check and a few grains of powder like n110 on a sr or pistol primer your brass would see 20 firings at such low pressure. But your hmr price gets you hmr speeds and doubtful accuracy above 100 yards. if you are really looking at cost per shot of the hornet to justify one over an HMR you are really missing a whole lot they are not even worth comparing on ANY level get the hornet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 i will mesure my rounds again but as far as i am avare nothing was change since developing thise round. and i do have same mag. I bet your die setting has or the bullets in this box / batch have a different point of contact with the die on its ogive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 if you are really looking at cost per shot of the hornet to justify one over an HMR you are really missing a whole lot they are not even worth comparing on ANY level get the hornet! I don't think that was the intended reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 No this (1.7232) is stated industry max COL for hornet (all rounds should be under this) yes some use 40 v-max and the like and need to alter a mag but all hornet specific rounds sold as such will do just fine seated correctly in any Hornet mag. Its why these stds were introduced Sorry my bad it 1.750 just checked. That's a hornady hornet 45 gr And they do fit a newer std mag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 if you are really looking at cost per shot of the hornet to justify one over an HMR you are really missing a whole lot they are not even worth comparing on ANY level get the hornet! I totally agree, for any who are willing to learn re-loading at even its most basic level. There is some point to reduced loads, the Americans do a fair bit of reduced load stuff for hunting turkey and the like @2000- 2400 fps and this can also have applications for some UK users (though we obviously lack wild turkey). what is often forgotten though is we can also download the other larger .22 CF rounds down to Hornet levels or even .22 mag levels 8-10 grn of SR4759 in the .222 say at 1600-2070 fps with a 55 grn bullet 11-13 grn in the 22-250. Real light loads are actually said to be harder on brass than std power and these cases should be kept separate as they lack the punch to seal correctly on bottle necked cases (of course that don't trouble the hornet much) Me I am happy harversting rabbits and hares out to say 200 ish and killing foxes and crows likewise. I am taking the bigger guns out now only on occasions of high winds or when I expect most of my chances to be over 200 + . I just never rated the HMR as the 200 yard gun it was first sold as, there was a big difference in terminals and in flight ballistics between 160-200 yards. Most of what I shoot in daylight with the Hornet tends to be in the 150-200 yard range (which is sort of nice because you tend to get relaxed quarry and time for a good clean and very humane shot) but I have taken quite a few bunnies at airgun ranges and they are fine to eat if you get them in the head. Been shooting crows over bait last fortnight with baits set 180-200 yads out and have yet to miss one or wound one, the main reason I bought the Hornet at the start was the 17 hmr was unpredictable on crows and wounded far more than I could except (many were very well placed shots) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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