HDAV Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 One word of warning if you want the stock fitted at a later date be careful of some plastic wood stocks with names like topcote, duracote etc as you may find these cannot be fitted at a later date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn12 Posted March 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) Thanks I'll bear that in mind, do baretta, miroku & browning use that material? Edited March 24, 2014 by Bryn12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Yes they all have played with similar thing paint a picture of to grade wood on a plain grade 1 stock and forend then varnish it to protect it. It can be adjusted but you must be extremely careful not to chip the varnish as you cut the wood. Oiled finishes are much easier to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 On some models I think beretta do possibly browning but may be only on the semi autos there is I think plastic wood on some cynergy models from browning miroku afaik are all proper walnut stocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn12 Posted March 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) ah right, the ones I've looked at are 'oiled' so I'm assuming they're OK. What are the general impression of Winchesters as the look of select energy sporting adj signature kind of appeals apart from the rediculous name and f'ugly scalloping Edited March 25, 2014 by Bryn12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL S Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 if it fit and you like it ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 ah right, the ones I've looked at are 'oiled' so I'm assuming they're OK. What are the general impression of Winchesters as the look of select energy sporting adj signature kind of appeals apart from the rediculous name and f'ugly scalloping The older 101 was a cracking gun with a cult following, the newer ones are a bit unknown... Made by FN in belgium and assembled in portugal are known to use not real wood stocks. I haven't shot one and would if offered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn12 Posted March 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 OK further thoughts, I've been struggling to see much difference between Sporter, Game and Trap models as far as I can see the main difference is the pistol grip - the Sporter seems to be deeper with a quicker curve, and a lower comb thought game guns tend to have prettier engraving What are the main differences and is there much, if any, difference in performance/handling between say a Sporter and game of the same make and model with the same length barrels and same chokes? Sorry for being so clueless but I've always just used the 'family' guns in the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL S Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 sporter are usually heavier than game guns and trap gun usually have a higher rib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 Often the only difference is the engraving and auto safety on game models, trap guns are often "more different" sometimes the only difference is the sticker on the box..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn12 Posted March 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 So basically find a gun you like and get on with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 Yes we can only get you a perfect gun fit when you have a consistent gun mount, it's not like fitting a helmet your have to have the ability to interact with the gun. So you need a gun that fits close enough to start, buy what you like a knowledge person will help but not vital at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn12 Posted March 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 I'm a fairly classic endo morph, not tall but wide across the shoulders and smashed up my right wrist playing rugby so I cant any gun I'm given, I'm assuming a fitted stock would allow for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit the frog Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Most standard guns need the stand out altered to fit a lady (the shape of the but plate where it makes contact with the shoulder), Usually they mis-mount the gun to make it comfortable and then nothing else is right! See a qualified coach, and get the gun fitted properly from the start. Once it fits, and the head is in the correct position you can pretty well fire any load through it without suffering kermit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Bryn, 1.try both skeet best for fundamentals and sporting...good all-round... 2.Once you settle on your main discipline then will help enormously in deciding on the gun part 3.I would'nt rush into the gun bit...try a few disciplines/try a few guns and ideally the odd coach along the way...once the ball is rolling you will have a better idea of what gun to run with 28/30/32 inch......miroku/beretta/other....you will find what you like......once you know what type of shooting you will mainly do,and for most it is sporting as specialising is for most a bit dull !?..the gun will almost chose itself. If you are in rush to buy,then a sporter is best compromise..but if you end up saying'' Im a trap shooter'' you wont really have the right gun... atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 A properly fitted gun would set up so you don't can't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn12 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 I do really like the idea of Skeet but Sporting is probably what I'm more familiar with though I'd like to try as many disciplines as I can and the 'starburst' set up looks fun . My inclination is to go with a sporter to start with and aim to upgrade in a year or so when 1. I'll have a better idea what my requirements are, 2. I'll hopefully have more funds. At the moment I'm a bit frustrated as I don't have an OU and find borrowing guns a bit limiting because they aren't set up for me and I don't know what I'm going to be borrowing from one week to the next. I really want to get my own 'clay' gun pretty soon so I can concentrate on getting familiar with it and working on the basics without the distractions of different triggers, chokes, safeties barrel lengths &etc., To my mind lessons/coaching are as essential as getting the right gun fitted (even roughly) in developing my shooting. Once I have that gun I can then work on dry fire, muscle memory and the mental side of things, right now I feel I'm at a bit of an impasse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Bryn there is no substitute for lead in the air I know where you are coming from, a similar situation happened when I started but I got some great advice and have followed it, the improvement isn't instant as the weather is improving and the nights getting lighter buy a do all gun now and get some use in the cold dark nights of December are the time to agonise over a new gun not spring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn12 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Yup think a trip to a range/gun stockist is required next week there's a range @3 miles from here not sure how it operates but the local club are having their April meet there while the regular field is used for lambing. Think its coin or token operated if there is such a thing, could be a useful place to practice regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) Yup think a trip to a range/gun stockist is required next week there's a range @3 miles from here not sure how it operates but the local club are having their April meet there while the regular field is used for lambing. Think its coin or token operated if there is such a thing, could be a useful place to practice regularly. Get along and find out, most clubs are full of people happy to lend their opinion and guns, often know of guns for sale that aren't listed at dealers or online often for reasonable prices and known history, like Jimmy bought it brand new in 1998 and shot well with it, sold it to fred in 2003 who could get on with it and kept it till 2011 when Joe bought it and and now wants to sell it. Edited March 27, 2014 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn12 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 yeah I joined the Thornhill club a few months ago and they've been great, had a go with a Miroku last time out and was hitting driven and crossers with it fairly well, even managed to hit a couple of DTL, it just didn't 'feel' quite right though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn12 Posted March 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Next step organised, lesson and have a look at some guns on Wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn12 Posted April 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Just back from a very constructive lesson and have a shotgun having initial alterations made, only thing it needs done for now is 10mm off the overall butt length and a 'guey'(sp?) recoil pad fitted. Second hand which helped get a better gun within budget. For now we'll be 'sharing' my gun, fortunately we needed the same adjustments to the stock. Mrs Bryn went from being 'tolerant' of me checking out the shelves before the lesson to having a good look at everything on the gun rack after her lesson and looking forward to the next lesson. We also kitted up with ear/eye protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Get an isis pad fitted they are brilliant much better than a rubber pad.... http://www.recoilsystems.com/greenpad/green.asp dont have to be green! What gun? Edited April 2, 2014 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn12 Posted April 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Browning B525 Gold Premium, shouldered a few in the shop but this one felt good and was spot on along the sightline so we had 25 clays each, 21gm of 7.5 shot. Mrs Bryn was more than happy with the recoil AND results and would have quite happily had another 25. Only thing we didn't like was the silly little point on the toe of the stock but that'll be gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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