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A couple of weeks ago I drove around derbyshire trying to gain some shooting permission <_< I drove up to the farms for the face to face approach :blink:

 

I left several buisness type cards with farmers as I was told by them that they had someone shooting for them allready or they did not have any pest /vermin problems. :good:

 

I was polite to them at all times and asked them to call me if they needed any pests/vermin problems in the future, :o

 

I was driving down a lane Yesterday and saw a farmer welding a digger bucket so I went to have a word with him and leave him a card, he said I dont have any problems with "rabbits or pigeons, theres a couple of foxes arround hear but they cause me no problem's. the only thing Im over run with is ******* BADGERS" :blink:

 

After talking to him for a few min's I could tell that he was rather pi88ed off with the amount of badgers and the amount of damadge they are causing to his land, he is a cattle farmer and was also concerned

about the dreded TB,

 

Let me make one thing clear hear chaps, I AM NOT CONCIDERING KILLING ANY BADGERS,

 

But I am just curious, would he beable to get a special permit or something like that to bring the badgers to a controllable level,?

 

have any of you had any simular experiences?

 

Kipper ???

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DEFRA have been culling badgers in recent surveys regarding bovine TB but it's all a bit hush hush.

 

Badgers are now about the most highly protected of our mammalian species here in the UK. Don’t even go near a set for fear of being accused of interference. Numbers have steadily increased and there is now a large and widespread population explosion. There usually is when the only predator most of these animals have is man and when he’s taken out of the equation all hell lets loose. Unfortunately despite all the evidence regarding TB and the well documented evidence about badger damage to crops, farm infrastructure not to mention other wildlife (hedgehogs feature highly on brocks diet) the powers that be will not sanction culling to reduce numbers and still insist they aren't a problem. Usual thing ask the 'experts' and you get the wrong answer, ask a countryman who knows but has no clout. By the way the definition of an expert is ... an ex is a has been and a spurt is a drip under pressure :unsure:

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Kipper,

 

A word of advice, don't approach farmers when there are no birds feeding on their crops, as the answer will almost invariably be NO.

 

Wait until you see a field that has birds on it, then approach the farmer, and offer to "keep them off the rape/drilling etc, for the day". That way the farmer is not making a lifelong commitment to allow an armed man that he's never met before onto his land.

 

You then go back to the farmer after you have shot, confirm that you haven't left heaps of empty shell cases everywhere and thank him for letting you shoot.

 

In most cases farmer's will then reply, "you're welcome to come back again".

 

This approach is a lot more productive than the way you're doing it.

 

Cat

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When MC and me shot on our new permission last saturday, I took along two bottles of red wine which I gave to him before we shot as a way of saying thankyou.

 

We made damn sure we picked up the empty cases (Bloody difficult when my Semi chucks them out to 20 foot into the field or woodland), even though we saw lots of emptys that weren't ours littering the woods.

 

Doesn't take too long and is a small price to pay. Next time we go if the birds play ball, we'll even offer him some on the way home, as we have to pass his house. Takes next to no time to prep them in the field, so he doesn't have to do it himself or even just breast them.

 

Do this and I guarantee you'll get more shoots by word of mouth alone. It's always hard getting your first shoot, but then they seem to fall into place one after the after.

 

All the best.

 

SS :(

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catamong, there is a field just down the road from the farm with bags staked out in it and there was still a flock of pigeons feeding in it. I thought the field belonged to him. I explaned this to the farmer and he told me that the field did not belong to him. so I thanked him for his time and left him a card, He said I will give you a call if I need any help.

 

thanks for the advice chaps. :(

 

I have got some land to shoot on but its really land that my dad has got for us to shoot on, most of the land we have got is at lincoln/newark about 45 min drive, we shoot down that way alot because we have got caravans there and we go there quite often over the weekends, Lots of fishing and shooting :lol:

 

kipper ;)

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