colin lad Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) have any of you reloaded for a .222 or .223 with 40g hornaday vmax, i have been using 50g vmax for my .222 and they group very well but was thinking of trying some 40g what are your thoughts and findings colin Edited January 26, 2015 by colin lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I use to load them in my 222 yonks ago. A friend did in his and I have mentioned it before that he use to clock 3950fps out of a CZ 527 in 222. Another friend uses them in his 250 foxing with me now. I would be very surprised if you ended up not liking them. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 That is what i shoot in the 223. I shoot h4198 which isn't an ideal powder, but i am still getting 3650 and it shoots 3/4" which isn't bad for a break barrel gun. There isn't a whole lot of difference between a 40 and 50 until you start pushing out past 200 yards when the 50 holds more energy. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) That is what i shoot in the 223. I shoot h4198 which isn't an ideal powder, but i am still getting 3650 and it shoots 3/4" which isn't bad for a break barrel gun. There isn't a whole lot of difference between a 40 and 50 until you start pushing out past 200 yards when the 50 holds more energy. Rick Ooh ooh what is this break barrel then? Sorry op :-) U. Edited January 27, 2015 by Underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 The 40s run really well but can be pushed about in the wind a bit more, I have been using 30 40 45 and 50 and 52 gr depending on availability. I do prefer the 50-52 to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I shoot almost exclusively Hornady 40gn V-max over 26.0grains of N133. For my gun, a Remington 700 vls, a perfect combination out to 300 yds. Very little adjustment at longer ranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Im assuming his break barrel comment relates to a Thomson Contender My money is on a Rossi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) Close. it is an encore which is the big brother to the contender. The Contender can handle up to 223 casehead rounds. The Encore can go up to the big stuff, though I don't think they are rated for the WSM casehead. I have 223 and 17 hornet barrels for it, both from MGM. rick Edited January 27, 2015 by casts_by_fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I shot my 222 with 40gr Vmax at saami spec OAL with H4198 in PPU brass with Federal benchrest primers. 22.3 grains was very reliable at 3300 fps ish from a 20" barrel. It still shot 5 round half moa groups with a horrendously pitted barrel. It still does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 i have been using h322 for my 50g vmax so shall look for some recipe's with that 1st save's messing with different powders to start with, if possible i would like as few different recipe's as possible one for 50g vmax one for 50g soft nose and a 40g pill hence asking about the above, colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 H322 is a fantastic powder :-) U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 22.2grain of 322 with remington 7.5 primers and 50g vmax works very well would be nice if i could get away with only one powder and one type of primer colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 H322 is a fantastic powder :-) U. +1 22.2grain of 322 with remington 7.5 primers and 50g vmax works very well would be nice if i could get away with only one powder and one type of primer colin I have had good results also an found it relitivly easy to get hold of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 +1 I have had good results also an found it relitivly easy to get hold of Who locally has 322? A friend wants to load up some 50 gr vmax and this powder is on the potential list (with n133). Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 plenty round here sadly a bit far from you though but if your ever down this way try stutleys on the A1 near Biggelswade colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Who locally has 322? A friend wants to load up some 50 gr vmax and this powder is on the potential list (with n133). Rick Have sent you a pm, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Close. it is an encore which is the big brother to the contender. The Contender can handle up to 223 casehead rounds. The Encore can go up to the big stuff, though I don't think they are rated for the WSM casehead. I have 223 and 17 hornet barrels for it, both from MGM. rick there's a blast from the past ,use to shoot a Contender chambered for 444 marlin with a 16" barrel and scope in the 90's. was a bit of a handfull and use to shoot it with rubber grip and a ballistic gel glove . on max load no one in the club asked for a second shot cos i use to hide the glove in me coat. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 there's a blast from the past ,use to shoot a Contender chambered for 444 marlin with a 16" barrel and scope in the 90's. was a bit of a handfull and use to shoot it with rubber grip and a ballistic gel glove . on max load no one in the club asked for a second shot cos i use to hide the glove in me coat. . Lol I bet that was fun, I was looking at an encore in 22 hornet a bit of a baby in comparison but a nice gun all the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Lol I bet that was fun, I was looking at an encore in 22 hornet a bit of a baby in comparison but a nice gun all the same yep was a lot of fun , it was a canceled order so got it cheap at the time. we had a few of em in the club in various calibres for knocking down steel targets chicken, ram etc. don't seem to hear much about em in the uk these days ,do they still import em? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 yep was a lot of fun , it was a canceled order so got it cheap at the time. we had a few of em in the club in various calibres for knocking down steel targets chicken, ram etc. don't seem to hear much about em in the uk these days ,do they still import em? Not sure have seen a few for sale always a good price wish I had the money for one in 22 h with open sights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) so would it be worth buying a box of 30-35g bullets to try or stick with the 40s for now ?? colin like the idea of a faster flatter round for longer range rabbit and crow on the calmer days Edited January 30, 2015 by colin lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 At that bullet weight you are okay for trajectory out to 200 yards but the light bullets drop really fast beyond that because they fly like ping pong balls. Doesn't matter if you are pushing the 22 cal 35 vmaz at 4k, it slows very quickly. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 The 40's are better than most think! Trust me! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 so would it be worth buying a box of 30-35g bullets to try or stick with the 40s for now ?? colin like the idea of a faster flatter round for longer range rabbit and crow on the calmer days I would stick with the 40s tbh I did play with some 30 gr berger match varmint. And they were very good fast and flat but it's swings and roundabouts. And they are out of production now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Thanks all I shall stick to 40s then lambing next week then will pop and get some week after Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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