Marksman1997 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 Hello everybody! I am trying to decide upon a scope for a TX200HC. With my other guns i always had ALOT of zoom. Probably a stupid amount. For example - on my 22lr i once had a 6-24 x 50 (Prob really stupid i know) Currently on 22lr i have Nikko Stirling 4-12 x 50 and honestly don't think it has much zoom. (Prob enough though) So i was going to get the same for TX but then i seen people on a fixed 4x or 8x zoom? Isn't that very low and hard to hit the target (obviously at close range it's great which is why i want mine variable) But i was thinking about going for a normal air rifle scope this time as i don't want it to look too big! And i don't really want to use high mounts and i definitely don't want to block the breach! or have to move soo far back that the scope is too close! After a little looking i found a Hawke 3-9 x 50 & Hawke 3-9 x 40 & Nikko Stirling 3-9 x 40 Are these scopes good or what other scope is better but not crazy price! Also they come in HD, AO, IR & Nite Eye but i really have no idea what any of these mean Please Help! And i prefer the mildot reticle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 3-9 x 40 or 3-9 x 50 is more than adequate for a airgun . HD - high definition is just a lense coating to reduce glare I believe , I would imagine nite eye is something similar but to enhance low light levels. AO is for adjusting parallax , IR = Illuminated recticle and it will have a small illuminated dot in the middle of the cross hair for shooting in low light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman1997 Posted March 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 3-9 x 40 or 3-9 x 50 is more than adequate for a airgun . HD - high definition is just a lense coating to reduce glare I believe , I would imagine nite eye is something similar but to enhance low light levels. AO is for adjusting parallax , IR = Illuminated recticle and it will have a small illuminated dot in the middle of the cross hair for shooting in low light. Thank-you Fenboy! Do you have any experience yourself with hawke or Nikko Stirling scopes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krwigan Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 I've just been looking at a Hawke Sport HD IR 3-9x50 AO myself looks the part and is sub £100 what do you think guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carman06 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 I picked up a hawke AirMax EV 4-12x50 AO for my air rifle. Really nice clear view but unsure on the map6 reticle at present. The drop points are quite small and would benefit from illumination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 Myself I would shoot at 10x Mag. Purfect for well placed head shots, hence why MTC did scopes fixed at 10x, because it was/is the most common setting for HFT and Hunting ! And most Mildots are true at 10x. ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 The Hawke HD is a good scope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 Another vote for Hawke here but myself I like my Panorama`s ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 3-9 x 40 or 3-9 x 50 is more than adequate for a airgun . HD - high definition is just a lense coating to reduce glare I believe , I would imagine nite eye is something similar but to enhance low light levels. AO is for adjusting parallax , IR = Illuminated recticle and it will have a small illuminated dot in the middle of the cross hair for shooting in low light. Yes I use a Nikko myself get on fine with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman1997 Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I've just been looking at a Hawke Sport HD IR 3-9x50 AO myself looks the part and is sub £100 what do you think guys? Something like that would do me Perfect! Was looking at identical one only 40mm Objective. Is 40-50mm Objective any real difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman1997 Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 My understanding of AO is that depending on what way you look down the scope the reticle may look off slightly but AO doesn't allow this??? (so better accuracy??? ) Is this wrong?? I have No idea??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 AO or parallax adjustment takes the form of a sidewheel or adjustable objective end of your scope. Im sure your 6-24x50 must have had one ? The higher the mag the more you will lose focus at different ranges,so its a means of adjustment to bring it back into focus,when set up right it can also give you an indication of range to target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman1997 Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 AO or parallax adjustment takes the form of a sidewheel or adjustable objective end of your scope. Im sure your 6-24x50 must have had one ? The higher the mag the more you will lose focus at different ranges,so its a means of adjustment to bring it back into focus,when set up right it can also give you an indication of range to target. Thanks Rewulf! Very Simply Put! On all the scopes i have ever had i always had focus at the back of the scope and you just twist the eyepiece for focus and on 6-24 x 50 it was the same except for a bit on the end for extra focus in yards so when you had the eyepiece focused when you zoom looking at e.g. 500 yards you just set the yard setting on the end of the scope to 500. So does this AO get rid of both eyepiece focus and yard focus at the end of the scope? And is it just on the left of bullet drop adjustment? Opposite windage adjustment? Do you remove a cap to adjust it like height and wind adjustments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) AO stands for adjustable objective ,thats the 'bit on the end' of the scope. Although some people nowadays use the term for sidewheel adjustment too (opposite side to windage) So your 6-24 scope was AO. Adjusting the eyepiece will bring the picture into focus but isnt quite the same thing. AO focus isnt really much good for range finding at anything past 60 yards even with an expensive 50x scope,so I wouldnt rely on it for past that,plus it has to be set up for your eyes. On what would be the best scope for you,that really depends on what you want to do with it and how much you want to spend. If you are rabbiting in low light,a large objective and illuminated ret and moderate zoom,around £100 should give you plenty of options to put on your springer. The 6-24x50 you mentioned would be ideal,just turn the mag down to 10 or 12. I got myself a very nice little scope of fleabay the other day for £35 delivered,its a short 2-10x40 with IR ret and built in laser,got it mounted on my sig and its a cracking thing for the money. Edited March 11, 2015 by Rewulf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman1997 Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Thanks again! Won't being doing much range finding with it though as i already have a hawke LRF 600 Range finder. quite like the Hawke Sport HD IR AO 4-12 x 50! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moorvale55 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I had a Hawke 3x9x50 adjustable objective with illuminated reticle on a springer, the IR is good for lamping as you don't have to search for the cross hairs with your eyes, it just springs into view. The reticle is either green or red (your choice), in 5 different ranges of brightness. I was so impressed with the scope for the money, (around £100 to £120, subject to supplier), that it is now on the .17HMR !! It is also a mill dot scope which is good for air rifles. The AO is also handy on an air rifle as a range finder for about 50 yards, (not required on the HMR). Have a look on the Hawke website for different reticles, types, costs, etc. Go for a 50mm objective lens over anything smaller as you will get more light collection. ATB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman1997 Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I was told to definitely get a spring rated scope for the TX and the Sport Hd scopes are " All firearm caliber rated" i assume this includes spring air rifles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I was told to definitely get a spring rated scope for the TX and the Sport Hd scopes are " All firearm caliber rated" i assume this includes spring air rifles? Yes that will be fine for springers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman1997 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Thanks for the help everyone! For a spring gun are one piece mounts recommended or is there not really any difference? Also i was told to spend extra money on good mounts which i am very willing to do. But my question is what make or style of mounts are good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Try these ,assuming 30 mm scope. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nikko-Rifle-Scope-MOUNTS-2-Piece-30mm-Tube-HIGH-11mm-3-8-Dovetail-Airgun-Rings-/331419899542?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d2a2a5696 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman1997 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Try these ,assuming 30 mm scope. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nikko-Rifle-Scope-MOUNTS-2-Piece-30mm-Tube-HIGH-11mm-3-8-Dovetail-Airgun-Rings-/331419899542?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d2a2a5696 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 I started using my 97k with a NS Mountmaster 4x40, standard 30/30 recital,nice simple scope with good clarity,minimum focus is around 15m. I then got seduced by the dark arts and bought a Hawke Airmax EV 4-12x50 AO which is a mouthful to say and a handful to use...so much so that I'm now back with the NS and have just purchased a set of 1 piece mounts for it.As and when I get an fac and a .17hmr the Airmax will go onto that and will probably make a stupendous combo. I also have an old skool Tasco 4x40 making its way to me, probably end up on a tx in .22 or a 77/97 in .20/.22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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