abolish motorcycle tax

[rimfire4969]

Try telling HMCE that lol

I did once, did not go down to well.

[Lord Geordie]

Regarding tax on fuel. I've always said that this would be the fairest way of charging. Just like electricity, gas etc, the more you use, the more you pay. My average mileage per year is 6000, but my neighbour, who has exactly the same vehicle as mine, and pays the same road tax,averages 70000. Also, adding the tax to fuel, means that no one will get away with not taxing their vehicle.

You will already be paying less than him then! Insurance premium is calculated on est annual mileage too. You will be paying less than him if you make your insurers aware of your annual mileage! He will also pay more for servicing, Tyres, Fuel etc which are all taxed.

 

I have my bike licence, and rode bikes until my third accident. Non of which were my fault! I promised my son I would never get another motorbike. I fail to see what the hubbub is all about with taxing them? The reason new cars pay less tax is down to emissions, how many motorbikes are fitted with a catalytic converter? How many 600cc+ bikes do around 75 MPG? Big bikes are inefficient. Granted the scooters are good at 120 MPG hence £15 annually for tax (not sure if that's still accurate?)

 

Even back in the day, there were different brackets for tax, small engines up to 1500cc were circa £100 and larger engines were circa £200.

 

Any vehicle that uses the public highway "imo" should be made to pay some form of payment! I don't agree with free tax, irrespective of how green it is! There is still an extra vehicle using and causing wear to the road. Fair enough, a smaller payment for a smaller car! I think the minimum car tax should be set at £60 even for electric vehicles! I also think the entire funding should be spent on upgrading the roads and their upkeep! Whatever is left over can go into other projects such as pavements, the initial building of the cycle network ways etc. Lets face it, with cycles off the major roads, it will be Bette off for ALL parties.

 

 

Bicycles should have their own cycle ways, funded by their own form of VED. Partly funded by a small tax on the sale of new cycles! A yearly payment of say £5 per rider which ALL goes on funding cycle ways throughout the country. This will keep them safe as they will no longer be using major roads.

 

Putting more tax on to fuel has little to no merit! Electric cars will pay no more, they should still be funding a system they use! Besides, in the USA they pay 55p for a GALLON while we pay near double that per litre. Don't you think we pay enough tax on that?

 

After the whole emissions debacle with VW, there have been tests carried out on MANY cars. According to results the majority failed to meet standards! So having cheap tax based on some fictional result is irrelevant. Odds are, that 1.0 Suzuki alto is no better than my 1.3 wagon r. You the alto gets free tax, while I pay £130.

 

Perhaps more a tax based more on vehicle size and weight?

 

There are plenty of avenues to research for fairer taxation. Trouble is it will never happen.

[SpringDon]

What, do motorcyclists actually tax their bikes these days ? They never used to !

 

I remember coming across an accident a few years ago. A biker - part of the 'sunday crews' that we get in North Wales all summer - had failed to get round a bend and dropped his bike in the ditch. As soon as his friends found out that he wasn't seriously wounded, every single one of them vanished, as none of the bikes had tax, test or insurance.

Don't think so. North wales had a random stop policy for plates, exhaust and visors, I sure they would have noticed missing tax etc.

And since the introduction of anpr cameras in the 90s it's really hard to get away with it. Unless they also didn't register the bike's holder as well.

[SpringDon]

... How many 600cc+ bikes do around 75 MPG? Big bikes are inefficient....

Can't let that go. Big bikes are spectacularly efficient and could easily do 100mpg, it's just that punters demand a gazillion miles an hour instead of mpg. As it is a fire blade can easily get 60mpg iat relatively legal speeds.

 

Do agree it's ridiculous to base tax on unrealistic lab tests though. Manufacturers figures have always failed to match real world use, it's just that it never influenced tax before.