EU exit, and Gunpowder and ammunition movement.

[TONY R]

Now we are out of the EU, and when in a year or two everything is finalised, How will us no longer being tied by EU laws Impact Gunpowder movement and AMMO movement by mail couriers etc.

The way i understood it THE HSE were working to EU directives and imposing the laws we are curently working under right now.

Anyone more knowledgeable in these matters in the trade ETC have any ideas if this will or might change the rules as they are now and if so will things be less restrictive perhaps. ?

[Savhmr]

Wait and see.

[robbiep]

The categories for hazardous materials - and transport of the same - are not going to change.

 

The EU regulations are identical to HSE requirements, and both were drawn up from the UN classifications on dangerous goods.

 

As far as I'm aware, we aren't abolishing the HSE, and we haven't voted to leave the UN.

[TONY R]

The categories for hazardous materials - and transport of the same - are not going to change.

 

The EU regulations are identical to HSE requirements, and both were drawn up from the UN classifications on dangerous goods.

 

As far as I'm aware, we aren't abolishing the HSE, and we haven't voted to leave the UN.

Thank you very much the pair of you, i had no idea of the details and though the potential could be there to improve things thats all, but that has cleared it up a bit now thank you.

[Walker570]

Nothing will change but the law really is an ***, as usual. I recently had a delivery of non toxic shot, primers and powder. The primers and shot arrived on day one and the powder the following day. The driver said they were not allowed to transport primers and powders together for delivery but they all arrived together at the depot. It is going to take maybe 10yrs to plough through all of the thousands of laws and regulations derived from the EU Commission and delete what we really do not need. If I called in at Clay & Game for instance and purchased a thousand primers and a couple of tubs of powder I can drive 150miles home with them in my car .... what is the difference ? If I expect a really good day at the pigeons (wishful thinking:-0) I may drive 100miles with 3 to 400 cartridges in my car .... it is a stupid regulation, but one we cannot blame the evil EU for I'm afraid.

[Continental Shooter]

No, you can't blame the EU for these rules, as they're actually a lot more relaxed than other countries: in Italy you can't courier any gun or part of it for instance; nor you can for powder unless you're a retailer.

 

For instance,it's actually easier for me to get something sent over from SIARM in UK than it is in Italy mainland; that said, the retail distribution is a lot more expanded in Italy so, i never really needed to get something sent to me.

 

In Spain is even worse... it's so hard to find components that Spanish people buy from Italy and they enjoy their many Km round trip to get to Italy and back.

 

So, in my view, here is a lot better to get components couriered .... although there are not enough components on the market itself.

 

Avoiding transport of primers and powder together make sense: if the van gets attacked (anti terrorism law) they will only have one or another;

 

Also, is a lot more difficult to identify any shooter that leaves his house with 400 shells, than a courier van leaving C&G for instance .... it also very laborious to extract powder from 400 shells to make something off it than it is to use a full flask of powder ...

 

in all this, however, it is important to remember that if you still want to have relationship with EU, you must abide by it and the EU law will need to be implemented in the countries that want to deal with the EU;

 

this meaning that to allow free movement of goods, UK needs to implement the free movement of people; failing that, the movement will follow a separate agreement (which will probably include higher import and transport fees).