Dekers Posted September 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 I have held an open firearms certificate with North Wales Police for over 40 years, and at my last renewal was refused .17hmr for fox, whereas it was previously allowed. Do you have Vermin and/or AOLQ against your HMR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Do you have Vermin and/or AOLQ against your HMR? The certificate states the hmr is to be used for vermin control, and the ammunition used may include expanding bullets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 The certificate states the hmr is to be used for vermin control, and the ammunition used may include expanding bullets. As per my #12. Unless you have a condition that specifically says NOT FOX, then the Home Office say Vermin=Fox! The Table on page 121 of the guide also list HMR and WMR as fox suitable, and .22RF in certain circumstances as Fox suitable. Do you have or do N Wales use AOLQ? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 As per my #12. Unless you have a condition that specifically says NOT FOX, then the Home Office say Vermin=Fox! The Table on page 121 of the guide also list HMR and WMR as fox suitable, and .22RF in certain circumstances as Fox suitable. Do you have or do N Wales use AOLQ? Cheers AOLQ is not mentioned on my certificate for hmr and .22LR, I can't speak for other North Wales holders whether they have the condition or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 AOLQ is not mentioned on my certificate for hmr and .22LR, I can't speak for other North Wales holders whether they have the condition or not. Same for me Gordon. I don't have AOLQ listed for any of my rifles (22LR, 223, 308) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) Same for me Gordon. I don't have AOLQ listed for any of my rifles (22LR, 223, 308) Does'nt make sense to me Robbie - I shot a lot of foxes with my hmr prior to my last renewal, and it does a very good job of dispatching them! Edited September 8, 2016 by browning123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) Does'nt make sense to me Robbie - I shot a lot of foxes with my hmr prior to my last renewal, and it does a very good job of dispatching them! Here's the really amusing one : all my rifles have target, but my 308 is listed ONLY for deer. So I can't legally shoot foxes with it. EDIT : just had a quick read of my conditions for the 223. It lists fox and vermin. So, once again, technically, I can't shoot munty or CWD with it. Edited September 8, 2016 by robbiep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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