sako751sg Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 A link to todays saying on the matter. Avery and sidekicks have been absolutely mauled with pure actual facts being shown on the pro side and the usual keech from the antis. http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/0b841a46-eb3d-44b3-83b7-9500482b6d92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 The anti grouse shooting mouthpieces didn't turn up! 3 females were all they could muster! They were more interested in heather burning and water run off/flooding, whereas the pro grouse shooting side were well represented and won the debate hands down! The government minister in her summing up said 'government has no intention of banning grouse shooting' but reiterated the governments determination the enforce the law on raptor persecution.....a seemingly very satisfactory result! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted November 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 The anti grouse shooting mouthpieces didn't turn up! 3 females were all they could muster! They were more interested in heather burning and water run off/flooding, whereas the pro grouse shooting side were well represented and won the debate hands down! The government minister in her summing up said 'government has no intention of banning grouse shooting' but reiterated the governments determination the enforce the law on raptor persecution.....a seemingly very satisfactory result! The summing up was pure class and some gem digs at those who were shouting loudest yet either didnt turn up or stay long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del.gue Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 I think one mp reffered to packham and avery as "voyeurs of conservation". I noticed avery was in the audience. Despite it being mentioned that the rspb were NOT calling for a ban, i did see guy shorrock sitting with avery and his cohorts. Shorrock is head of rspb ivestigations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 This is RSPB's take on it: https://www.rspb.org.uk/community/ourwork/b/martinharper/archive/2016/10/31/time-for-change-a-comment-on-the-parliamentary-debate-on-the-future-of-grouse-shooting.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Full transcript here: https://goo.gl/d0eOHd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggone Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 A link to todays saying on the matter. Avery and sidekicks have been absolutely mauled with pure actual facts being shown on the pro side and the usual keech from the antis. http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/0b841a46-eb3d-44b3-83b7-9500482b6d92[/quote) I'm not often moved to comment on politics, but I've just listened to the full debate in the link, and I have to say I am very impressed with the great majority of the speakers. I think anyone on the fence would not agree that driven grouse shooting should be banned. In fact I think the instigators of the petition have well and truly shot themselves in the proverbial foot, by bringing the debate out into the open. Well done MPs.!! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyB Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Have a read of Ovary's blog and the comments from his adoring eco zealots. Some are now talking about direct action on grouse moors next season. Great. They can get criminalised, lose their jobs and destroy their image in the eyes of the public. Edited November 1, 2016 by TommyB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 A link to todays saying on the matter. Avery and sidekicks have been absolutely mauled with pure actual facts being shown on the pro side and the usual keech from the antis. http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/0b841a46-eb3d-44b3-83b7-9500482b6d92[/quote) In fact I think the instigators of the petition have well and truly shot themselves in the proverbial foot, by bringing the debate out into the open. Well done MPs.!! Andy Why do you think the RSPB distanced themselves from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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