Advice Please

[Tarn]

Hi All,

 

I want a FAC, PCP, bolt action, single shot rifle of .3/7.63 cal., with 40ftlbs.

 

What do you recommend ?

 

Why ?

 

Where do you get ammo ?

 

( My local gunsmith says there's no such thing ! )

[webber]

That looks like an odd calibre to me. Would you care to check?

 

webber

[Tarn]

That looks like an odd calibre to me. Would you care to check?

 

webber

 

Well, I'm no airgun buff, can't list every make and model ever, can't quote reams of specs,

I just like to shoot, and quite often don't miss, but I understand that Stalker, for example,

offer the Puma in these cals;- .308 .357 .45 .472 and .5 and I'm sure they are not the only

outfit that does. So, my question once again is ;- What is the best .3 ( 7.62 ), Why, and who

does the ammo.

[ChrisDavey]

Hi All,

 

I want a FAC, PCP, bolt action, single shot rifle of .3/7.63 cal., with 40ftlbs.

 

What do you recommend ?

 

Why ?

 

Where do you get ammo ?

 

( My local gunsmith says there's no such thing ! )

 

Hi,

I believe you have your wires very mixed up

You want a calibre of 0.3" approx 0.308 ... 7.62mm with only 40ftlbs - Not even 0.22" HVCB is that low @ 48ftlbs and I can not figure out from your 2nd post if its actually an airweapon you want at this value. if it is it sounds completely ridiculous and I would strongly suggest you speak to your local gunsmith for an appropriate calibre and weapon for the purpose you intend say 0.22LR

 

Please elaborate on your post and I will see if I can help

[Gully]

Blimey, I never knew these things existed. What do they shoot like?

 

Here's the pricelist. http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~targetts/pricelis.htm

 

What are you going to use it for?

[webber]

Gully

 

Thanks for the link, quite interesting, I really didnt know that such weapons were available on the open market.

 

Quite how effective they are is another story. However at the prices it would be more cost effective to buy the real thing, as the licensing hoops would be just the same.

 

I am keen to learn more for the sake of interest, I doubt that webber will be parting with his britches **** cash.

 

webber

[Tarn]

Gully

 

Thanks for the link, quite interesting, I really didnt know that such weapons were available on the open market.

 

Quite how effective they are is another story. However at the prices it would be more cost effective to buy the real thing, as the licensing hoops would be just the same.

 

I am keen to learn more for the sake of interest, I doubt that webber will be parting with his britches **** cash.

 

webber

 

O.K., I'll try to answer thus;

How Effective ?, Well, back in the early 1800s, when the Austrians were at war with the Germans, they had snipers using them. If the Germans caught them they would string them up on the nearest tree because they considered it to be " An unsporting way to wage war "

But I don't want anything quite of that caliber !

Why not a 'real' firearm ? 'cos I don't want one. Don't want a shotgun - too messy. And re the

license, what use would they be to a thief if they could not easily obtain ammo, and I would have less hassle storing said ammo because it contains no explosives.

On the cost issue, that's why I'm shopping around, might be cheaper to have one custom made.

What do I want it for ? Foxes, Deer, and smaller. That's why I was not going for max velocity,

don't need to hit anything in the next parish, but want good impact up to say 80 yds.

Anyway, I am allowed to have a preferance, am I not ??

[webber]

Tarn

 

Thanks for the info. I was aware of some of the early history, but wrongly thought that such weapons had faded away.

 

You are of couse welcome to your preference, but you may wish to run it past your firearms licensing officer before placing any firm orders for weaponry.

 

Please do keep us all posted as this is quite interesting.

 

webber

[Hodmedod.one]

Bloody hell, £3.3K is a bit strong for a pellet gun.

[LEFTY478]

Leopard (0.22 or 0.25 calibre) Right or Left Hand

The Stalker Leopard Air Rifle

F A C Model 45- 50 ft.lb. 0.22 F A C Model 50- 60 ft.lb. 0.25

 

1.295-00Speed Loader (Fitted)125-00High Power Models:- .308"/.375"/.45"/.472/.50" Calibre

100 - 340 ft.lb.

 

£2,800.00

**** me! After you on the stirup pump.

[pin]

What do I want it for ? Foxes, Deer, and smaller. That's why I was not going for max velocity,

 

Which country are you in Tarn?

[njc110381]

I know it varies from country to country, but round here a 340 ft-lbs rifle firing a .240+ sized bullet will come well under the ft-lbs and velocity requirements to shoot deer. Even with the new muntjac law coming in making .22 centrefires legal, you're going to be seriously under powered! You need nearer 2000ft-lbs for deer I think

[Tarn]

I know it varies from country to country, but round here a 340 ft-lbs rifle firing a .240+ sized bullet will come well under the ft-lbs and velocity requirements to shoot deer. Even with the new muntjac law coming in making .22 centrefires legal, you're going to be seriously under powered! You need nearer 2000ft-lbs for deer I think

 

 

Now were getting somewhere, I didn't know what the regs are.

I farm sheep, so have to control fox numbers.

Basically, I don't want 'too much gun', but it must be adequate for the task in hand.

Excluding the deer then, would a .25 be up to the job, and what ftlbs would you all suggest ?

My mate uses a ' proper' .22 rifle with supersonics. He thought he was missing his shots at

rabbits whilst my standard BSA Meteor and Bisley Magnums brings them down. Then we found that his shots went straight through, allowing them to creep away and die later. Hence the question of 'velocity or impact'. I suppose it's like saying what hurts most, a pin at 1000ft/sec, or a 10 ton lorry at 10 ft/sec ( not that I'd fancy trying either ).

I accept that I don't know all the technical answers, thats why I'm asking.

Edited June 27, 2007 by Cranfield