Browning ou weak ejectors

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42 minutes ago, ditchman said:

you must update us please........very interesting...as im a tinker with no purpose anymore..

I'll get some images up when I get the time to work on it.

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44 minutes ago, enfieldspares said:

I've suggested the step as I had a similar, but different, experience with my late father's gun. The thing would eject perfectly if a little "weak" (the price you pay for a gun using the Westley Richards "box" system of ejectors rather than Southgate's system or that used by Boss). 

But what it would also do if the right barrel only were fire would give a "vibration" or a "knock" that would make an unfired cartridge in the left barrel back out and (as modern crimp closure cartridges with shorter wads were being used) and then fall from the chamber out of the gun.

It wasn't firing the left ejector which correctly remained in the position it should do but just giving this "knock" that transmitted enough inertia to the unfired cartridge to make it back out. Odd indeed!

I took the gun to the arrogant and ultimately useless Simon Clode at Westley Richards. Thinking that as it used their system he'd at least be knowledgeable to sort it. Which he said he had done. Gun came back to me and it still had the problem.

I queried that with Clode and his dismissive reply was "It's an old gun. It can't be fixed." It seem what they'd tried was to remove metal from the legs so as to remove any tightness of the one rubbing on the other and transmitting that "knock".

So I did as i should have done and took it into the "trade" that then still hung on at Price Street. The gunsmith that looked at it said "It needs new ejectors. It'll cost £300. If it doesn't work I won't ask you to pay me for them."

Well they did work and what he did was make the legs of these new ejectors to be as tight a fit as possible so there was a tight friction slip fit with the other leg. Intuitively the exact opposite of what you'd think to do.

So it was indeed fixed. By someone with just a little bit more knowledge and "nowse" than the overbearing Simon Clode. I admire what Clode did with his late father's company, for sure, a superb success, but my God he could be lacking in the humility stakes.

Which was odd as his father Walter Clode was one of the nicest people you'd have hoped to meet.

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On 26/09/2022 at 18:53, enfieldspares said:

IMHO the channels on the gun where the ejector runs each side of the gun is worn out. On a SBS it's not a problem as the new ejectors can be made a larger diameter where they pass through the holed drilled for them in the barrels. Your issue is that you bought factory ejectors made to the factory tolerances of a new gun. I am sorry it has been a disappointing resolution. Might I suggest as I do?

So in effect its "legs" will be undersize in relation to your (possibly) worn channels. My advice (as now you have a spare set) is to tack some small dabs of weld on the top and bottom of the ejector legs and then file those down to make them become a set of ejectors with greater width legs. That should sold any slackness and restore the relationship of the ejector rim to the cartridge as was intended when the gun was new.

You might try to "test" this by using Araldite to glue a shim onto the legs or maybe, even a dab of soft solder as a temporary try out to see if wider ejector legs where they bear in the channel solve it. Before resorting to welding.

The cheap "bodger's fix" would be to peen the the top and bottom surfaces to again reduce the effective spare gap between channel and ejector legs. I'd not advise it.

 

Thankyou, that is a good approach !