morgan Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) "The only real agendas are the woke ones that are weaved though our society, you only need turn on the TV and see the adverts of vastly over representation of ethnic minoritys and others with protected characteristics, or the laws that are made to give them extra protection " Thats how gaslighting works.....its a confusing mix of contradictory appearence and reality - they over amplify what we percieve as woke agendas in the media, annoying people by threatening their belief systems, but none of this wokeism is actually real or manifested in government policy. Tell me how the "Wokes" or the left are preventing the government from acting robustly on immigration. The Rwanda flights were not an effective immigration policy - they were just dog whistle politics and illegal under international law and they knew it when they made it up. Now the government is blaming its inabilty to come up with an effective policy on the wokes. The government has a huge majority, they can virtually do what they like politically. Fact is the wokes and the left have virtually no influence on policy, despite what the media will have you believe. The media whips up indignation about some leftie nutters in Bermondsey or trans people using toilets or becoming gynacologists, just to conceal government inaction and essentially corruption. All this government achieves is to transfer taxpayers money to the private sector as slickly as possible. That is why they are in power. Do you not think its a coincidence that the profits of the corporations and the financial institutions are booming, whilst the lot of the normal british worker is at an all time low. If the entitlement agendas and ethnic minorities have a power base and are genuinely dominating British politics - why is there a rising disproportion between rich and poor ? Just look at health inequality, there is like a 15 year difference in life expectancy between some regions of Britain. The reality is that the British peoples entitlement to health and social care, mental health, policing, rents, ability to get on the housing ladder, food and energy security have all taken a nose dive and yet we still concentrate on entitlement agendas by ethic minorities on TV, as if they are preventing effective government by Westminster. Its just a number the media are working on the british public. The government cynically manipulating and confusing the entitlement and race card for its own purposes is racist, as it undermines the credibilty of people who genuinely suffer from marginalisation and discrimination in society. Edited March 20, 2023 by morgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remimax Posted March 20, 2023 Report Share Posted March 20, 2023 The Teflon tories , you can't beat a good crisis to make some decent profit for you & your private school chums. That PPE scam during covid was beyond taking the ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 20, 2023 Report Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, morgan said: I think this government will do anything to deflect criticism and cling on to power. At no time did I say it was racist to address the burdening problem of illegal migration. What I said was, the government could readily sort out the crisis by providing an immigration system fit for purpose, which it has clearly not chosen to do. There is an up to four year waiting list for applications to be processed. Instead it has chosen to conceal its criminal negilgence by weaponising the crisis and attempting to shift the blame for government failings onto the wokes and the left. Also the language used by the BAME ministers in my opinion contains thinly veiled racism. Why are the Ukrainian refugees not demonised in the same manner as say the Syrians or the Iraquis or the Libyans or the Afghanis ? The government is attempting to shut down any criticism of its lack of policies - why was it confident enough to go for a sports presenters tweets on his private social media. Virtually the whole media is in bed with the government. Vast amounts of public money is going to the governments mates in the private sector funding the asylum hotels. Certain sectors of the economy are profiting from this crisis.....its certainly not the wokes or the left or the British working person. Whilst the unnecessary culture wars around immigration continue - everyones eye is off the government failings in the economy and elsewhere. Thank you for clarification on some of the points I raised. I actually agree with some of what you say, especially that it is certainly not illegal migration that is the biggest issue for quality of life for the working masses, but the problem of wealth inequality has been a thing since the start of civilization and is a far bigger, more complex issue than illegal migration, which should not be an issue in the first place and is now becoming a large problem that absolutely needed tackling, on top of our countrys other many issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted March 20, 2023 Report Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) Yes of course you are right. The lack of an effective immigration policy by the government is disproportionally effecting working people, because of the pressure on resources in the regions they are housed. Edited March 20, 2023 by morgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 20, 2023 Report Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, morgan said: Yes of course you are right. The lack of an effective immigration policy by the government is disproportionally effecting working people, because of the pressure on resources in the regions they are housed. Someone else is up late to 👍. I don't think the UK should be under any legal obligation to provide routes in for refugees, I think that's a bit like dictating someone must donate to charity, I do however agree any right minded, forward thinking, wealthy country like the UK absolutely should via its peoples consent and I believe a referendum could be called setting out, why we should, maximum numbers and under what circumstances. I have no doubt the UK would continue in its tradition of offering a helping hand to genuine refugees, just as many uk citizens have done so with Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted March 20, 2023 Report Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) Its a job to know, without an independant and unbiased media, its difficult to make informed decisions these days. I think you are definitely right about the need for some citizens advocacy in government decision making about controversal topics and local issues. It worked in Northen Ireland over abortion. Edited March 20, 2023 by morgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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