budget night vision

[snipers eye]

hello again folks,im looking to get into the night vision scene,have seen set ups on ebay the ones with the 4 inch screen etc,that claim between 200 and 400 meters targets can be seen clearly,is that true?are they worth getting for use with a 223 for say 200 yard shots?they only cost about 110 pounds,any opinions welcome.looking for something like in the picture  below.......

Edited May 10, 2023 by snipers eye

[Rewulf]

2 hours ago, snipers eye said:

hello again folks,im looking to get into the night vision scene,have seen set ups on ebay the ones with the 4 inch screen etc,that claim between 200 and 400 meters targets can be seen clearly,is that true?

I would say its highly unlikely. 

An IR torch that would reach that distance would cost more than the £110 alone! 

The camera needed for a decent image at least £50, then a similar amount for a good screen. 

Before you think about screened add on units, think about how much light is going to shine into your face from the screen, also eye relief on your scope. 

Even modern Pard add ons will do 200 yards without extra IR torches costing £150 +£300-500 for the pard. 

If your budget is only around £100 then I might have something cheap for you if you're interested? 

[snipers eye]

thanks for reply rewulf...just to ask what have you got?..and if a product is not as described when bought from ebay,is one not entitled to their money back?

[Rewulf]

7 hours ago, snipers eye said:

thanks for reply rewulf...just to ask what have you got?..and if a product is not as described when bought from ebay,is one not entitled to their money back?

It all goes back to the context of the description, its a vague thing to say 'it can see objects 2-400 yards away' 

What exactly are they referring to, a fox, a cow, a house, in what light? Total darkness or daylight? 

Many of these units are sold by UK based Chinese suppliers, using very low quality parts, I know for a fact they can't build a 200 yard total darkness unit for that money, never mind a 400 yard one. 

You can spend £1000 and struggle to get 400 yards. 

I'll get some pictures up of what I've got, what are you shooting, and what rifle is it going on? 

[Dave-G]

Be advised the 4" screens are generally the cheapest low resolution one's available. 5" screens generally have a better resolution.

 

[Rewulf]

2 minutes ago, Dave-G said:

Be advised the 4" screens are generally the cheapest low resolution one's available. 5" screens generally have a better resolution.

 

Exactly.
Dave G is an expert on this type of stuff.

[snipers eye]

thanks lads for help....rewulf,ill want something i can clearly see a fox at around 150 yards,it will be going on a 223,thanks.......reason i want the screen is so that my mate wants to see whats happening also,can be a bit boring just standing there looking at nothing

Edited May 11, 2023 by snipers eye

[Dave-G]

The 'heads up' home build rigs like your first post are a bit past their sell by date, they were very popular before the Chinese started producing self contained high investment rigs that home builds cannot compete with.

[Rewulf]

21 minutes ago, snipers eye said:

thanks lads for help....rewulf,ill want something i can clearly see a fox at around 150 yards,it will be going on a 223,thanks.......reason i want the screen is so that my mate wants to see whats happening also,can be a bit boring just standing there looking at nothing

Whats your budget ?
The Chinese screen jobbies for £100 odd, likely wont perform at that range, and even 'premium' screen ones still have the problem of lighting you up.

The best thing for you is probably something with wifi , or HDMI , that can send an image to a screen or phone.
Pard 007 or similar, Ive seen 2nd hand ones at £225 , but new ones are around £300 going up from the V model.

https://www.blackwoodoutdoors.co.uk/product/pard-nv007v-12mm-16mm-night-vision/

[snipers eye]

35 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

Whats your budget ?
The Chinese screen jobbies for £100 odd, likely wont perform at that range, and even 'premium' screen ones still have the problem of lighting you up.

The best thing for you is probably something with wifi , or HDMI , that can send an image to a screen or phone.
Pard 007 or similar, Ive seen 2nd hand ones at £225 , but new ones are around £300 going up from the V model.

https://www.blackwoodoutdoors.co.uk/product/pard-nv007v-12mm-16mm-night-vision/.....................thanks for that,at the moment im putting away some money for the nv.ill have a budget around 200 when ill want to buy,not really interested in those pard ones,i want the screen sort,.....just a point,if those ones on ebay do not preform as described,ill have an option to get a refund,and the sellers know this,so why would they lie about the 200-400 meter distance?........Evan if i were to get to the 150 yrd mark,that would be cheap set up

 

Edited May 11, 2023 by snipers eye

[Rewulf]

28 minutes ago, snipers eye said:

if those ones on ebay do not preform as described,ill have an option to get a refund

I wouldnt bank on it.

Like I said , its WHAT you can see at 200 yards, and in what light..

Im not trying to put you off , its your money, but theres a reason why theyre so cheap.

[snipers eye]

5 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

I wouldnt bank on it.

Like I said , its WHAT you can see at 200 yards, and in what light..

Im not trying to put you off , its your money, but theres a reason why theyre so cheap.  ....thanks again,i know your not trying to put me off,but buyers do have the option for a refund if item is not as described,and for 100 nicker,it might be worth a shot,like i said if evan i got a good view at 150 yrds,its a cheap setup,thanks for your help/advice.i might take the plunge and get one in few weeks,if not what as described ill seek refund,