Highlander Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 I see that the latest outbreak of ‘bird flu’ we’ve to contend with in Suffolk has immediately been blamed on ‘wild birds’. When will the idiots that run these things ever admit what the real cause is...cheap intensively reared, imported meat /poultry from countries with **** bio-security measures, people who don’t give a s**** and government jobs worths who aren’t doing their jobs. Not necessarily their fault either, these 3rd world countries are just trying hard to up their living standards but what about the supermarkets that demand ever cheaper food supplies to foist off on their unsuspecting customers? Buy British and buy good quality local stuff, that’d put an end to these outbreaks that threaten all our livelihoods! And if you thought about buying a BIG cheap turkey from a flock of 1000's for Christmas DON’T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 I thought that I had got my Christmas dinner last night when I visited one of my shooting friends. He presented me with a fine Canada goose, which I took home and decided to take off the breasts, as there was insufficient room in the freezer for the full job. As I started to pull back the skin to expose the meat, It started to stink. My wife actually arose from her dose of soap opera jollop to complain and my son got out of bed, and came down stairs forgive the pun, but such was the honk. Oh dear, there is still time, I may be lucky and shoot one myself yet! webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Canada's don't make good table birds, at least in my experience, so you didn't loose out too much there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferretboy111 Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Dont get me started on the subject- DEFRA havent said anything about Game shooting at all, they dont have any legislation put down about it, everyone i have spoken to doesnt have a clue. My shoot is half in the restricted 10km zone and half out, but apparently shooting can go on as normal- just not in the 3km zone- but im sure it will all change, BASC is sorting it out so i hear. Got my next day planned for 24th november and really want to get it done so fingers crossed. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Canada's don't make good table birds, at least in my experience, so you didn't loose out too much there. All the Geese I have shot have been Canadas and I have never had a problem with them in terms of eating quality. The secret is to cook slowly breast down or wrapped (Bacon or even baking sheet) so as to retain the moisture in the place it should be. Granted an older bird maybe a bit tough if cooked quickly, but flavour wise no probs. SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted November 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Dont get me started on the subject- DEFRA havent said anything about Game shooting at all, they dont have any legislation put down about it, everyone i have spoken to doesnt have a clue. My shoot is half in the restricted 10km zone and half out, but apparently shooting can go on as normal- just not in the 3km zone- but im sure it will all change, BASC is sorting it out so i hear. Got my next day planned for 24th november and really want to get it done so fingers crossed. Alex Alex try here http://www.basc.org.uk/content/avian_flu__shooting__basc also here http://www.defra.gov.uk/news/latest/2007/animal-1112.htm both sites have been updating news regularily. As yet no restrictions on shooting apart from (silly) distances from poultry sheds within the 2 main zones and advice about the movement of shot game also within the wider zone. Not yet a major problem for shooters so lets hope it stays that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted November 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Canada's don't make good table birds, at least in my experience, so you didn't loose out too much there. I guess Dan alias NTTF will be glad to hear that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myuserid Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 I see that the latest outbreak of ‘bird flu’ we’ve to contend with in Suffolk has immediately been blamed on ‘wild birds’. When will the idiots that run these things ever admit what the real cause is...cheap intensively reared, imported meat /poultry from countries with **** bio-security measures, people who don’t give a s**** and government jobs worths who aren’t doing their jobs. Not necessarily their fault either, these 3rd world countries are just trying hard to up their living standards but what about the supermarkets that demand ever cheaper food supplies to foist off on their unsuspecting customers? Buy British and buy good quality local stuff, that’d put an end to these outbreaks that threaten all our livelihoods! And if you thought about buying a BIG cheap turkey from a flock of 1000's for Christmas DON’T. Its actually a free-ranged farm, hence the reason why its currently being blamed on wild birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Before you know it the poultry farmer could have immigrants working for them and they could have been from a country that has bird flu. They may blame it on wild birds but it could of come from anywhere. Also out breaks like this is not surprising and wont be more surprising if a new deadly strain comes out with all the intensive farming around the world especially China. I say the birds with avian flu should be kept and if possible get some eggs of them as the newborn could be immune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 I say the birds with avian flu should be kept and if possible get some eggs of them as the newborn could be immune. Might be a bit hard as the birds that contract it tend to die within 48 hours. SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 I say the birds with avian flu should be kept and if possible get some eggs of them as the newborn could be immune. Might be a bit hard as the birds that contract it tend to die within 48 hours. SS OK you may be right but I am sure there are birds out there that are immune to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 I say the birds with avian flu should be kept and if possible get some eggs of them as the newborn could be immune. Might be a bit hard as the birds that contract it tend to die within 48 hours. SS OK you may be right but I am sure there are birds out there that are immune to it Your probably right, as in all forms of life there are some forms of life that never seem to get ill or diseased, however this time of year and due to the virulant nature of the virus, egg production is non existant and they will cull everything regardless. However I agree that the other way to ensure a vaccine () may be found is to grow and research birds that are hatched from eggs from suspected infected flocks. SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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