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Antique Percussion Punt gun license?


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I'm wondering whether a license is required for a 1.65 inch Punt gun manufactured circa 1850s for the purpose of an ornament. Literally just display because these things are incredible. 

 

I've read the legal definition: "pre 1939) rifles, shotguns and punt guns chambered for the following cartridges expressed in imperial measurements: 32 bore 24 bore, 14 bore, 10 bore (5/8″ and 2 7/8″ only), 8 bore, 4 bore, 3 bore, 2 bore, 1 1/8 bore, 1 1/4 bore and 1 1/2 bore, and vintage punt guns and shotguns with bores of 10 or greater."

 

1.65" converts to 1 bore. Now where in tripping up is; "bores of 10 and greater". Does this mean greater than 10 i.e not bore size greater but number greater - e.g, 12-14 or does it mean actual bore size greater, I e 8, 6, and therefore 1.

 

 

 

 

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If it dates from before WW2 then you may keep it as a "curio or ornament" I think the phrase is. However, if you propose to fire it then you must enter it on your certificate and inform the police. "Greater than" refers to the size of the hole in the muzzle. Punt guns are usually classified by bore in inches/fractions although there is a letter system which was used occasionally. I have actually have done this stuff rather than looked it up on line. If you need further help (and are a member) then talk to Bill Harriman at BASC.

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37 minutes ago, Pushandpull said:

If it dates from before WW2 then you may keep it as a "curio or ornament" I think the phrase is. However, if you propose to fire it then you must enter it on your certificate and inform the police. "Greater than" refers to the size of the hole in the muzzle. Punt guns are usually classified by bore in inches/fractions although there is a letter system which was used occasionally. I have actually have done this stuff rather than looked it up on line. If you need further help (and are a member) then talk to Bill Harriman at BASC.

I assumed the bore size greater than 10 meant that a 1 bore would be allowed without a license due to it being the greater bore size. However my dyslexia proper tripped me up as I wasn't sure if they were talking about the actual bore size being greater which would mean 9 bore, 8 bore, 7 bore, and so on or greater in terms of literal numbers like 11, 12, 13 and so on . 

I've asked the actual auctioneer to confirm whether a license is required also, as they should have firearm experts to consult but from the replies I've received it sounds like no license is required as I have no intentions to fire or keep ammunition. 

 

Thank you for the reply :)

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  • GiveItAPunt changed the title to Antique Percussion Punt gun license?

Well My mistake I now see it is a percussion muzzle  loader  and is classed has a  antique  but like all antiques  which do not need a licence  but you want to use it  then it must be entered on your licence but extra large P1010003.JPG.1ba6f07e2913fa997c9bc6dc1001262d.JPGbore size does come into it to use .  Before lead shot for wildfowling was banned  some muzzle loading fowling guns up to four bore  were entered on shotgun licence for a  short period for fowling holiday and then returned to antique status.

Feltwad 

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6 hours ago, Feltwad said:

Well My mistake I now see it is a percussion muzzle  loader  and is classed has a  antique  but like all antiques  which do not need a licence  but you want to use it  then it must be entered on your licence but extra large P1010003.JPG.1ba6f07e2913fa997c9bc6dc1001262d.JPGbore size does come into it to use .  Before lead shot for wildfowling was banned  some muzzle loading fowling guns up to four bore  were entered on shotgun licence for a  short period for fowling holiday and then returned to antique status.

Feltwad 

Thank you for that bit of history and knowledge! I don't have any plans whatsoever to fire it. I don't tend to have a massive interest in operational guns, only older antiques. 

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