nav54 Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 going to look at some new 308 rifles over the weekend any advice would be grateful in regards to ammo best to reload or buy any particular brands that stand out good points bad points will mostly be used for red deer and target work or can any one suggest anything better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 going to look at some new 308 rifles over the weekend any advice would be grateful in regards to ammo best to reload or buy any particular brands that stand out good points bad points will mostly be used for red deer and target work or can any one suggest anything better? Try here karl http://ukvarminting.com/forums/index.php?act=idx more suited to rifles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Sorry Magman, is THIS not a shooting forum (including rifles) too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Sorry Magman, is THIS not a shooting forum (including rifles) too Yes but how many people only shoot rifles on here the lads on the site are friendly and no there stuff and will help Also no replys here so tried to send him somewhere that might Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 I know what your saying, and I may have a look over there myself, but still...it had only been an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duey Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Nav54 technically target shooting and hunting should utalise a differen bullet type for each expanding ammo used for hunting isn't really allowed on target ranges esp military ones, ranges like the Bog at Minstery should be okay but thats only 100yds to sort out load and zero none expanding FMJ bullets used for target shooting will also have a different point of aim requiring a change in zero if using the same rifle homeloading will give better consistantcyfor target shooting once you get a round sorted that suits your rifle which may take some time and expence in equipment. reloading can be done to reduce the cost of ammo and minimum equipment can be cost effective, such as the Lee aniversary reloading kit which is a good starting point i suggest that you make up your mind as to why, or what, you want, or need to achieve, before you decide on homeloading or buying factory ammo, which by the way, if you buy the right bullet that suits your gun can be very effective and difficult to replicate with homeloads, hunting or target shooting. if you have a rifle with a 1-13/14 twist then bullets around the 150-165grain will suit the best if you have a rifle with a 1-10 twist then bullets between 175 to 190 grain are better suited ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Technically speaking target shooting is a comlpletly different ball game to anything else, unless you are going to shoot F Class home loading isn't allowed and all competitions are shot with standard Nato issue rounds. Which are given to you by the organisers. The rifles are different, the sights are different, no rests or bipods are used, ranges are normally well over anything you would ever shoot live game at. 300yds is a short distance with 1200yds being the longest. The .308 is probably the most common and versatile calibre if you want to shoot both but in Target competition it will be its metric equivalent the 7.62 x 51mm NATO. If you want to shoot closer targets than perhaps the .308 is a bit much and something like a 6.5 x 55 would be more suitable. It all depends on what the primary use is going to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 going to look at some new 308 rifles over the weekend any advice would be grateful in regards to ammo best to reload or buy any particular brands that stand out good points bad points will mostly be used for red deer and target work or can any one suggest anything better? Try here karl http://ukvarminting.com/forums/index.php?act=idx more suited to rifles I visit a lot of forums, and wouldn't hesitate to suggest a forum that may be of help to another shooter that was looking for info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mry716 Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Nav54 if you have a rifle with a 1-13/14 twist then bullets around the 150-165grain will suit the best if you have a rifle with a 1-10 twist then bullets between 175 to 190 grain are better suited ian 308 Winchester - 1 in 10" . . . . .Colt; J.C. Higgins 51-L; Mannlicher Schoenauer; Marlin 455; Musketeer; Remington 722, 740,742, 760, 700, 40-XB, 788, 660, 600, 7400, 7600, Four, Six, Seven; Schultz & Larsen; Ruger 77; Wichita. Savage 99, 110, 112, 116 (present);Weatherby Vanguard; Steyr SSG-PIV; Thompson/Center Rifle 308 Winchester - 1 in 12" . . . . .Browning 81 BLR, BAR Mark II, A-Bolt II; Colt; FN; High Standard; J.C. Higgins 50, 51, 51-L; Harrington & Richardson 300, 308; Husqvarna; Mossberg 800; Savage 99, 100, 110, 2400; Sako Bolt Action and Lever Action; Winchester 70, 88, 670, 770; Steyr SSG-PI, PII, PIII; Stevens 110; 100, Remington 700, 40-XC.; Springfield Armory M1A Very few makes offer alternatives to the above but the 308 is pretty versatile. By the way I have an as new Steyr for sale. mry716@hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duey Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 I don't believe that Target Shooting the discipline was what was intended in the original post I believe it was hunting and shooting at targets and if it was better to start homeloading or just stick to factory ammo ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duey Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Fister i agree that the 308 is a great round and that is where i cut my teeth on reloading, and the reason that most people shoot 155 scenars or palmers is that most 308 are 1-13 twist barrels but i got caught out when i brought my remmington ADL it was actually a 1-10 twist barrel that does not like 155gr bullets consisitantly so i had to move up to 165 gr which has worked okay to date along with a lot of customising to the rifle as time has gone on but it has given me loads of pleasure in improving the gun at each stage that my shooting has reached the capability of the rifle. it was my only rifle that had to do everything that i wanted at a budget but over the years i have aquired others that now leave my 308 for its original purpose of been my stalking rifle and it does that very well, light compact and now very accurate, consistanly 1/2 inch groups at 100yds and actually shoots better in terms of MOA at 300yds. mine has a 21.5 inch barrel that is moderated and can group around the bull at 600yds but that is a s far as i have pushed it 1000yds can be achieved with a 26" barrel with no need to go to 30" unless you want to go competative target shooting varget or Vhit N140 are by far the best options for powder for the 150-155gr bullets as they both work well and are both usually readily available I find that the Scenar 155 have a better velocity than the palmer match 155 like for like load and average about 2850fps which is more than good enough for 1000yds providing that you have sufficient elevation available on you scope, which is usually the reason that a lot of people dont get to a 1000yds with their 308 that they mainly use for hunting or club shooting out to 600yds. ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nav54 Posted January 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Well bloody hell guys cheers for all the responses it has made interesting reading and now I am a bit more with it fun target shooting and not competition is what I am looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duey Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 go for it mate and enjoy ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisv Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 palmer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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