trevor Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 whats the diffrence between a raven and a crow can anyone help what to look for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeihrauchPower Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 whats the diffrence between a raven and a crow can anyone help what to look for. Ask Wikipedia! He's your man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Crows account for an entire family of birds, Cordivae, that includes the raven species. That is, all ravens are crows, but crows can be ravens, jays, or magpies. The issue gets a little confusing because of how people typically use the terms; many commonly refer to ravens and crows as species, both in the genus Corvus Raven: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 (edited) Ravens have a diamond shaped tail in flight and a very distinctive voice. Their call sounds a bit like "pruk" :lol: They are bigger than a crow, but that's useless in the field, unless you have both birds side by side. Ravens can be very aerobatic too twisting and flying upside-down etc, but I have seen other members of the crow family do that occasionally. Edited January 29, 2008 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 im lost so there is no diffrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 is there many about where i am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 im lost so there is no diffrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeihrauchPower Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Just search Corvids on Wikipedia for an easier to understand answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Hooded Crow: (grey crow in Ireland?) Rook: Jackdaw: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 chard you beat me to it in the post so there is a diffrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 (edited) is there many about where i am Hardly any - they're usually in the West of the country in Cornwall, Devon, Wales, Scotland, not sure about Ireland. They occasionally get reported elsewhere, often by twitchers who couldn't tell their harris from their helbow :lol: Edited January 29, 2008 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Ravens are a damn site bigger you will know when you see one, we have some round here, if I get chance to take a pic i'll post it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeihrauchPower Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Come on shaun! Pics of a Hooded Crow, Jackdaw and Rook don't really help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeihrauchPower Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Ravens are a damn site bigger you will know when you see one, we have some round here, if I get chance to take a pic i'll post it up I've shot some big *** crows though! So how do YOU tell the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 are they protected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 (edited) Come on shaun! Pics of a Hooded Crow, Jackdaw and Rook don't really help. Yes they do they are all types of crow, as are ravens. I am trying to explain that the term crow covers them all. However the individual birds within the family name 'crow' are some of the above. I believe the question is the difference between a carrion crow and a raven, in which case a ravens feathers have a purple twinge to them, tail feathers form a diamond, bill is heavier and the raven is larger in size. Carrion crow - 48–52 cm in length Raven - 56 and 69 cm Edited January 29, 2008 by BSA Shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 http://www.furry.org.au/corvus/raven%20sitting.jpg http://www.mangoverde.com/birdsound/images/00000002722.jpg very easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeihrauchPower Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Come on shaun! Pics of a Hooded Crow, Jackdaw and Rook don't really help. Yes they do they are all types of crow, as are ravens. I am trying to explain that the term crow covers them all. However the individual birds within the family name 'crow' are some of the above. I believe the question is the difference between a carrion crow and a raven, in which case a ravens feathers have a purple twinge to them and the raven is larger in size. You are right in a way but all are corvids but a Jackdaw isn't a crow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 (edited) This is a Raven in flight - notice the diamond shaped tail. Carrion Crows, Rooks etc don't have that shape to the tail, usually fan-shaped or squared-off I still say that voice is the best form of ID. Very distinctive "pruk, pruk" and you can hear it from a huge distance, even though it's not particularly loud. Bill Oddie, eat your heart out Edited January 29, 2008 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 are they protected. Yes they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 thanks people for the help might have something interesting to post back come weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 The Jackdaw (Corvus monedula), sometimes known as the Eurasian Jackdaw or European Jackdaw, is one of the smallest species (34–39 cm in length) in the genus of crows and ravens. Part of the crow or Corvus family, as are jays and magpies too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 you'll know one when you see it, I saw my first one this year and they are quite noticeable from the sheer size and the noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeihrauchPower Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I stand corrected! I was under the impression that the before mentioned were all part of the Corvid/Corvus family, but that they weren't all crows (so to speak). You live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 I stand corrected! I was under the impression that the before mentioned were all part of the Corvid/Corvus family, but that they weren't all crows (so to speak). You live and learn. It gets confusing too mate as there is the Corvidae family which covers the crows, ravens, rooks, jackdaws, jays, magpies, treepies, choughs and nutcrackers. I believe it is these members that pertain to the corvid family collectively! Confusing I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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