JSR Scopes???

[Timelord]

I've been looking on Ramsbottoms website at their JSR scopes. they look good and say a lot on the tin :blink: But do they do what they say on the tin :blink:

If anyone here has had experience with them or own one of them can you please comment or put in a small review please??

 

Regards Lee..

[Biffo1262]

I've been looking on Ramsbottoms website at their JSR scopes. they look good and say a lot on the tin :blink: But do they do what they say on the tin :blink:

If anyone here has had experience with them or own one of them can you please comment or put in a small review please??

 

Regards Lee..

 

 

I've got the 6-24x50 ill ret PA Mildot JSR scope and find it to be of very good quality and well worth the money. It comes with flip up covers and an alloy sunshade. The vision gets a touch hazy at full zoom but still acceptable. Vision is crystal clear below below full zoom. The PA ring can very difficult to rotate especially in cold weather but slackens a bit as the weather warms up. This is a common comment with this scope and something I think the makers should be looking at to solve. All in all I think you'll find that should you get one you will be well satified with your purchase.

[Timelord]

Thanks biffo1262 that was very reassuring, I'm looking at the new version of the JSR 6-24x50 PX Illuminated as they say the reticule is now etched. Here's the link >> http://www.jsramsbottom.com/cgi-bin/jsr.cg...=/SM/SM_jsr.HTM

And at £89.95 I'm gonna go ahead and stick it in the basket :blink:

I'm shopping around for stuff and although I know what gun I'm gonna buy (Theoben S-TYPE in .20cal) the scope was the hardest decision to make :blink: I figure while the scope is of good quality and at that price then why not :blink: This forum has been a great help in my quest for information Thanks for your help mate

[WeihrauchPower]

Timelord,

First of all the Ramsbottom scopes seem good value for money, i used to have an illuminated 3-9x40 on one of my rifles and it never let me down.

I would put something a little better on a Theoben S-TYPE though. Have a look at the Hawke range. I've never had a problem with them and the mil-dot reticles really come in hany on an air rifle.

Try this Hawke Nite Eye Scope 3-9x50 for £90, can't go wrong for the money.

 

http://www.airrifleshop.co.uk/Optics.htm

[Timelord]

It was actually the JSR 6-24x50 PX Illuminated I want rather than the 3-9x50 mag. I've had the 3.5-10x50 whitetail classic in the past and for me there was not enough magnification. My shooting needs will vary from plinking targets in the garden to hunting. Not to mention I had a bad accident 9 years ago where I tripped into a plate glass window resulting in permanent nerve damage. So the easy grip turrets are up my street due to the lack of feeling in my fingers. (especially on cold days in the field)

Initially this scope will be a starter scope and when I've got the funds I'll start looking at the £1000 mark for something real special, but for now I'm saving hard for the gun and all the kit that is needed for it.

 

Thanks for the link I will have a look on that site and bookmark it for now too

[WeihrauchPower]

It was actually the JSR 6-24x50 PX Illuminated I want rather than the 3-9x50 mag. I've had the 3.5-10x50 whitetail classic in the past and for me there was not enough magnification. My shooting needs will vary from plinking targets in the garden to hunting. Not to mention I had a bad accident 9 years ago where I tripped into a plate glass window resulting in permanent nerve damage. So the easy grip turrets are up my street due to the lack of feeling in my fingers. (especially on cold days in the field)

Initially this scope will be a starter scope and when I've got the funds I'll start looking at the £1000 mark for something real special, but for now I'm saving hard for the gun and all the kit that is needed for it.

 

Thanks for the link I will have a look on that site and bookmark it for now too

 

Cool mate,

6-24 mag is pretty full on though? Even centrefire shooters generally stick to between 8x and 15x mag shooting out to 200yds+. But whatever floats your boat. I still think you could find a better scope for your Theoben with easy adjust turrets. The JSR 6-24 are purely aimed at those who think that high mag equals high accuracy.

What you ask does remind me of something along these lines

http://www.opticsplanet.net/barska-varmint...riflescope.html

lets face it illuminated reticles aren't that fantastic.

[Timelord]

I do see your point and I'm well aware that on full mag the scope will not be as accurate but I figure at around 15-20 mag the scope will be withing it's limits which will possibly do for now?? But if your saying that the scopes all round engineering is not accurate then I will take that on board. I was looking at something like this from Hawke >> http://www.deben.com/optics/riflescopes/nite_eye_mil_dot.php

NE 6.5-20x50 AO £ 159.95

NE 4-16x50 AO £ 149.95

These models in particular, because I want a .20cal s-type then the SR models with all the range reticle only compensate for .177 and .22 and at least the mil dot will give me more precision at varies distances. Obviously for me it will be a learning curve with the gun/scope/pellets at first then hunting will be more accurate. (quarry still needs respect and be dispatched humanly).

[Biffo1262]

I do see your point and I'm well aware that on full mag the scope will not be as accurate but I figure at around 15-20 mag the scope will be withing it's limits which will possibly do for now?? But if your saying that the scopes all round engineering is not accurate then I will take that on board. I was looking at something like this from Hawke >> http://www.deben.com/optics/riflescopes/nite_eye_mil_dot.php

NE 6.5-20x50 AO £ 159.95

NE 4-16x50 AO £ 149.95

These models in particular, because I want a .20cal s-type then the SR models with all the range reticle only compensate for .177 and .22 and at least the mil dot will give me more precision at varies distances. Obviously for me it will be a learning curve with the gun/scope/pellets at first then hunting will be more accurate. (quarry still needs respect and be dispatched humanly).

 

 

I only use the full magnification on the scope purely for spotting. It's very rare I shoot above 12/15x but for the money the option is there and well worth it too. It really is a well made piece of kit; very solid and inspires confidence in it. It has it's little quirks as I've already stated but poor optics and accuracy is certainly not one of them. You can do a lot, lot worse for the money.

Edited February 3, 2008 by Biffo1262

[Timelord]

I do see your point and I'm well aware that on full mag the scope will not be as accurate but I figure at around 15-20 mag the scope will be withing it's limits which will possibly do for now?? But if your saying that the scopes all round engineering is not accurate then I will take that on board. I was looking at something like this from Hawke >> http://www.deben.com/optics/riflescopes/nite_eye_mil_dot.php

NE 6.5-20x50 AO £ 159.95

NE 4-16x50 AO £ 149.95

These models in particular, because I want a .20cal s-type then the SR models with all the range reticle only compensate for .177 and .22 and at least the mil dot will give me more precision at varies distances. Obviously for me it will be a learning curve with the gun/scope/pellets at first then hunting will be more accurate. (quarry still needs respect and be dispatched humanly).

 

 

I only use the full magnification on the scope purely for spotting. It's very rare I shoot above 12/15x but for the money the option is there and well worth it too. It really is a well made piece of kit; very solid and inspires confidence in it. It has it's little quirks as I've already stated but poor optics and accuracy is certainly not one of them. You can do a lot, lot worse for the money.

Thanks mate this was my guess with it too after all Ramsbottom would not put their name to them I suppose I'm glad you emphasized the part of accuracy as I know the Theobens are the dogs nuts. Now this scope for me is easy on the pocket and has the abilities I need in a scope. after all £912 on the gun £129 on the pump £89.95 on the scope Oh and don't forget £6.99 on the pellets to feed the gun = £1137.95 upwards (but well worth every penny)

Edited February 3, 2008 by Timelord

[08shooter]

try and spend a little more on at least a hawke or simmons whitetail. check ***y . bushnell also. spend around or over one hundred and get a better clarity scope.

[Timelord]

I here ya but this is getting a little confusing now Can somebody please post some clear pics of the optics so I can judge a little myself. I do astronomy at and expert level and know what good optics look like, can somebody help??? as I stated I just want something for a starter and then I'll spend big money on a scope. This is for the future reference not for now I'm just trying to save a few £££'s to get myself on the road so to speak....

[airssassin]

I have a JSR scope from Ramsbottoms. It's a 6 x 32 parallax adjustable and I use it on my BSA lightening XL. Very light and easy to use for squirrel and pigeon blasting. I have found it accurate at the ranges I use it at (up to about 30yds). The optics are not as good as say a simmons entry level scope but for the price, these scopes are brilliant. The reason I bought it is because it is on par with my gun and the type of shooting I do. I would suggest a slightly better scope for your Theoben.

Edited February 4, 2008 by airssassin

[WeihrauchPower]

I here ya but this is getting a little confusing now Can somebody please post some clear pics of the optics so I can judge a little myself. I do astronomy at and expert level and know what good optics look like, can somebody help??? as I stated I just want something for a starter and then I'll spend big money on a scope. This is for the future reference not for now I'm just trying to save a few £££'s to get myself on the road so to speak....

 

Timelord,

 

Try and get along to a gunshop and compare the optic quality before you buy, and spend as much as you can (by the best and only buy once).

General rule of thumb is to spend the same on the scope as the rifle. This is a little different in the case of most air rifles as they can cost a fortune. So i'd be looking to spend at least £150 for the S-Type.

[Biffo1262]

Go along and try one is the best advice you've been given. It's alright people saying this is better than that and that is better than this but you just cannot compare a 6x32 scope with a 6-24x50. For starters the 50mm object lens lets in far more light at the same mag as a 32mm object lens. It's like buying binoculars and comparing Leitz with Opticron. Opticron are very, very good but Leitz are even better but they are 3 to 4 times more expensive. You have to decide what spec you want and what you can do without whilst keeping the optics in the more than acceptable range. I spend a great deal of money on binoculars and spotting scopes for my birding hobby and I can translate that quality into scopes. I repeat, for clarities sake that there is nothing wrong with either the optics or the build quality or the accuracy of JSR scopes WITHIN their price range and the spec you seem to want. Of course there are better scopes - for a price!! If you want a large object lens, PA, ill ret, 6-24 scope of solid reliable build then the one you are looking at will fit the bill. If you want to reduce your spec and pay the same money you will get better optics, within reason. If you want to pay a lot of money and want the best optics on the market then look at Zeiss scopes; roughly the same spec in a Zeiss scope will cost you over £1,100 - you see where all this is going? How long is a piece of string? I can perhaps try taking a picture through my scope but what are you going to compare it with and does it lose anything in the photography etc. You need to compare with a known quantity to evaluate. If you know anyone local with a JSR scope say at a local club go and see if they will let you have a shufty. Only you know what you are going to be happy with and what your expectations are.

 

Just for interests sake read this - JSR 6-25x50 Scope

 

Steve

Edited February 4, 2008 by Biffo1262

[Big_Sam]

In my limited experiance of JSR scope, I have to say that you get what you pay for, not a lot in other words.

 

Optics are horrible, alot of abberation and bluring at the edges and not clear at all on high mags.

 

Even an old Simmons 3-9x40 was nicer.

 

Just my 2p.

[berettaman1]

I no longer shoot Airweapons, but I have A unused boxed, NIKON MONARCH, 6.5X20X44 scope, cost new £365.00 (Discounted) I want £205.00. postage included. All the write ups praise the optical clarity, I have never used it but Nikon lenses speak for there selves! give me a PM if you are interested.

[skb 557]

HELL FINE SIR... IF IT HELPS THIS MORNING MY BAND NEW HAWKE NITE EYE 6.5-20X50 MILL DOT IR ARRIVED AND ITS MOUNTED ZERO'D AND ON ITS WAY TO REPLACING MY GIRLFREIND IN OTHERWORDS ITS A RETE BEAUTY I UPGRADEDED FROM A HAWKE 3-9X50 SPORT IVE HAD A FEW SCOPES AND FOUND FOR THEIR PRICE HAWKES ARE A GOOD QUALITY SCOPE MY GIRLFREIND USES A JSB AND ITS GOOD BUT NOT AS GOOD AS THE HAWKE.. ID SEND U PICS IF I KNEW HOW... GOOD LUCK DONT WANNA CONFUSE YOU BUT HAVE YOU THOURGHT OF AN BSA PANTER 6.5-20X44 AO £160 ISH V,GOOD TO BYEBYE