snowyhog Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 What way is a stock curved for left or right handed stocks Ie when a right handed stock when mounted to shoulder have an bias to left or right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 a very simple one is if you stand and look straight at a target, put a gun in your right shoulder the action would be around 4-6 inches away from your eye alingnment, eg off center, the cast or toe is the correction made in the stock to bring everything inline the links may explain it better http://www.orvis.com/detail.asp?subject=10..._id=&bhcp=1 http://www.billhanusbirdguns.com/archive08.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadgit Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 My Beretta 686 kicks into my cheek like a good un! This brings up a bruse on my face........I can't seem to stop it doing it to me. :good: Just like that! The gun appears to be straight as a die with the stock.....i'm considering having the stock shifted. How much would I expect this to cost at the gunsmith?? :lol: Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 My Beretta 686 kicks into my cheek like a good un! This brings up a bruse on my face........I can't seem to stop it doing it to me. :good: Just like that! The gun appears to be straight as a die with the stock.....i'm considering having the stock shifted. How much would I expect this to cost at the gunsmith?? :lol: Thanks. Could be as simple as not making sure you've got your face on the stock firmly as you mount. If your cheek and stock are as one, then it won't kick you. If you cannot do this cleanly then you need to see a gun fitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadgit Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Thanks Peter, Just to check, are you saying my face should be tight against the stock as I shoot? Could this also be linked to not having the gun tight into my shoulder?. Its still new for me at the moment, although I got the technical bits sorted, and starting to hit the clays now. Can't wait to get out and see if the last seven i hit on the run was a just luck............... My lad had his first shots with me, and hit the first two to dust/ and then couldn't hit the side of a barn door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildoliver Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Your cheek should be against the stock, and the stock against your shoulder before shooting. To explain this hold your palm flat and hit it with your fist from a foot away. Then try it with your fist against the palm and punch. See there is no impact? You move as one, if there is a gap there then the gun accelerates before hitting something i.e. you and causes pain. Besides which you'll never hit owt like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 As Wildo correctly says, your cheek has to be firmly against the stock. And obvioulsy the stock in the shoulder. You will get a wack if there is a slight gap. As happened to me the other week, I fumbled the mount and didn't 'get it up properly' but decided to pull the trigger anyway. Not only did I miss by miles, I also got a very swollen cheek. Needed a few applications of a frozen bag of cauliflower (didn't have peas) to calm it down a little. Could feel a proper lump against my cheekbone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 If you are right handed, the stock is "cast off" the face ie, when you are looking str down the rib, the stock needs to bend out slightly to the right to connect well with your shoulder. The cast terminology is all related to the perspective of a R/H shooter, so although a left hander would want the stock cast off to the left on the shoulder, this is referred to as "cast-on" ie for a right hander the stock would be pressing further into the face /shoulder. If you are new to shooting, worry about your stance / mount and style before you blame the equipment. Small cast adjustments might improve my score from 90 /100 av to 95 / 100, but if you are shooting 50/60% then money invested in getting style and technique will pay great dividends in your hit ratio, and a qualified instructor will deal with most gun fit problems with simple adjustments to the stock ( boots and comb raisers if needed). Cast is rarely a major issue untill all the other spects of style and fit have been dealt with. Jerry Senior CPSA Coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadgit Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 :good: :lol: Thanks chaps thats brilliant!!!! Pat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowyhog Posted February 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Yes thanks everyone for really good imput. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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