Have I messed up ????

[pantheman]

OK,

 

Today I ****** up.

 

Up until today things were going well and particular today the pups were listening to me on the whole. By the end of our walk this evening the little bitch started to be naughty, wouldn't come or listen and as much as I didn't want to chase her (ref, previous advice) found myself doing exactly that. By the time I managed to apprehend her, I got angry and reprimanded her (gave her a slap across the bottom). I have never felt so guilty :blink:

 

When I eventually got her into her dog run, she was straight in her box.

 

I was about to go, but still felt this guilt so I went back to the run and got her picked her up stroking and re assuring her. I was trying to make the peace.

 

My question is have I messed up? I have read in places you are not supposed to repremand pups, but other places that you should. I am confused!!!

 

Can anyone give me some directions as to what I should or shouldn't do in cases where discipline needs to be administered.

 

I have this fear of making a mess of things....... help.

 

 

 

Cheers

[dustyfox]

OK,

 

Today I ****** up.

 

Up until today things were going well and particular today the pups were listening to me on the whole. By the end of our walk this evening the little bitch started to be naughty, wouldn't come or listen and as much as I didn't want to chase her (ref, previous advice) found myself doing exactly that. By the time I managed to apprehend her, I got angry and reprimanded her (gave her a slap across the bottom). I have never felt so guilty :blink:

 

When I eventually got her into her dog run, she was straight in her box.

 

I was about to go, but still felt this guilt so I went back to the run and got her picked her up stroking and re assuring her. I was trying to make the peace.

 

My question is have I messed up? I have read in places you are not supposed to repremand pups, but other places that you should. I am confused!!!

 

Can anyone give me some directions as to what I should or shouldn't do in cases where discipline needs to be administered.

 

I have this fear of making a mess of things....... help.

 

 

 

Cheers

 

I done the exactly same thing today with my dog he is 15 months old and he went into this woodland where these deer carcussis are and he managed to get a bone off it, he started chewing it and I shouted at him at the same time I was walking to him to get it of him. When I got near him he started running away, I started to chase him till I realised that he wants me to chase him, so I stood still and I did my drop command in a lighter voice and he came up to me and sat down and dropped it to the floor and allowing me to put him on the lead.

 

Dogs need to know when they have done wrong and need disapline, dont smack um to hard as if you let them off the lead next time they might not come back to you because they will think you gonna hurt them. Just say a deep no or bad and put him on the lead. Thats the way I do it. Im sure others will tell you.

[bob300w]

:blink: Easily done, if anyone who owns a dog and has not done this or at least come close enough for the pup to know that the boss is annoyed, I've yet to met him.

All you have done to establish that you are the boss, once is unlikely to have caused any problems, if you make a habit of hitting a dog, like people/children they become immune to it, it becomes the norm.

I know that it is easy to say, and dogs, especially the spaniel varieties, will try your patience to the limit, and beyond. But they do know who the boss is, and when they do need reminding, do it with a growl, an old gamekeeper that I knew used to use his hat to "beat" his dog, it vented his frustration, and the dog was unhurt, but got the mesage. Another good reason for not ill treating a dog is that if you hurt it, guess who gets the vets bill? yep, it aint the dog!

My Cocker is now 11 years old, she gets away with murder at home, but in the field, if it's required, I can have her on her back crying, just by growling at her. She was only slapped once in her life, the day that we went into the dining room for sunday dinner to find madam on the table, astride the leg of lamb, going for it!

Another thing to keep in mind is that dogs are like people, they have off days, when it becomes apparent that this is "one of those days" stop the training and call it a day,

[skb 557]

Every one has done something simmilar i did when my pup RAN 8 MILE'S home as shes great on the way out she stays by my side barks at the wabbits and if i say go on she'll try an put up chase but always fails but when it comes to turn around and go home --------------fuuum she bugers of and will run home i dont know why but its like she thinks ''i know were im goin'' and u'll just buger of, ive tried not runnig after her but when she's a tiny dot in the distance things change and all i can think of is her safety as if she got hit by a car on the way id be hart broken i love the little *** soooo much, but once ,the time she ran 8 mile i did slap her in the *** i think it was out of fear that i did it but the entire way i was so scared and worried try not to feel to bad dogs dont sit around in the wild reading news papers drinking tea there right nasty so sones to one another when my late dog had her pup's and they gave her greaf she'd give em what for and the dad was always bitein and throwin em around [im not say bite em or harm them just be realistic] at the end of the day if one dog really gets to another they sort it out so dont worry about a slapped bum weve all had a slap on the *** when i was a kid i was always sore but it was my own falt i was a horid child but my mum loves me as i do her..

 

But even tho i felt like hittler just for slapin rudie the once on her bum i wouldnt let myself say sorry to her as in go sit in her bed as if id done something wrong even tho i thought i had as i know if she thinks im creepin round her,,, id be homeless now she'd of kicked me out...

 

You need to not take things dogs do personly as their only being dogs their not tryin to upset you or goin out of their way to make your life hell their new to life and are finding their way and you dont learn good without doing bad......

 

im sure every thing will work out better than fine in the end :blink: :lol: but i wish you the best of luck

[lewis]

I think its alright to hit dogs... not to the point of the vet, but just a slap on the backside.

Its also a good way of showing whos leader,

 

dont feel guity, its showed her whos boss and she has done wrong, :blink:

 

Cheers

[pantheman]

Thank you very much for the replies, it has been a load off my mind.

 

I don't ever plan to hurt my dogs, but just needed to know what was what.

 

So, thanks again for the advice, I will do better next time.

 

Cheers :blink:

[plinker]

hi mate get yourself a book by joe irving called training spaniels, it will help you to understand your dogs, personally i would not hit a pup of that age but would take it by the scruff ,when it disobeys you take it back to where it disobeyed you immedidatly and let it know that is where it comitted the crime and that you are not happy.a lot depends on your dogs character, but you run the risk of making a good dog timid if you over do it at that age,be stern and consistant and it will sink in.remember you have to teach them what to do gradually.

enjoy your pups.

[WGD]

joe irving called training spaniels

 

Consistency is key, get yourself a bible and stick to it. Don't worry about the slap, from what you say the intention was never to injure the dog, just remprimand her. But as has been said, don't make a habit of it - just like the kids, they get used to it and it becomes ineffective.

 

WGD

[Mrs Sweepy]

dear pantheman

dont be so hard on yourself.

its hard trainning one pup let alone two.

and it can be very frustrating to. double the trouble.

sometimes you will feel like you have taking steps backwards in their trainning instead of forwards.

but beleve me you will get there in the end .and all those hard,headbanging times will be worth it .

with two pups it is down to giving each pup enough time for one to one trainning .but at the mo they are still young so enjoy them as puppys.

the best bit advice i was ever giving with my two dogs (two months differance in aged).when i first had them as pups was never train them together .

xxxxsuzy

[pantheman]

dear pantheman

dont be so hard on yourself.

its hard trainning one pup let alone two.

and it can be very frustrating to. double the trouble.

sometimes you will feel like you have taking steps backwards in their trainning instead of forwards.

but beleve me you will get there in the end .and all those hard,headbanging times will be worth it .

with two pups it is down to giving each pup enough time for one to one trainning .but at the mo they are still young so enjoy them as puppys.

the best bit advice i was ever giving with my two dogs (two months differance in aged).when i first had them as pups was never train them together .

xxxxsuzy

 

Thanks, advice always welcome and I am grateful for this forum that will help me along no doubt.

 

The dog listens to me more, the little bitch (and she is too!) is testing me all the time, but for the mo, I will let them play. they are only 9 weeks so I thought was too soon for any serious stuff.

 

Cheers all.