bob300w Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 OK, I've fought against it for years, but I've finally decided to splash out on NV for the 223, who has what and how good is it? I want a minimum of 6x magnification, 8x if possible, and the ability to clearly see and identify a fox at 200 yards. The ability to Zero in daylight is essential, weight is not important, how do they handle headlights when in NV mode? Does it cause permanent damage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Tukly is about so I'll let him say it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Jeffs here now, its his kit and hes the man in the know ( all very secretive this NV stuff ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 OK, I've fought against it for years, but I've finally decided to splash out on NV for the 223, who has what and how good is it? I want a minimum of 6x magnification, 8x if possible, and the ability to clearly see and identify a fox at 200 yards. The ability to Zero in daylight is essential, weight is not important, how do they handle headlights when in NV mode? Does it cause permanent damage? Eat more carrots bob and save your self a shed load of money . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Bob, BuyThe best you can afford, the most econical way of doing it it to buy a Starlight Archer - you can use it as a viewing monocular to spot your quarry and then attach it to the back of your normal day scope ( in seconds) to take the shot. we viewed foxes with it whilst over in Ireland at 450yrds - Jeff ( Grasshopper) uses one to great effect. http://www.starlightnv.co.uk/day-night/arc...vision-mo.shtml And at £1400 for a d grade gen 3, its worth every penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasshopper Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 http://www.nvscopes.com/night%20vision%20s...0HTH%20731.html This 1 looks ok as a fixed scope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted April 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 OK, I've fought against it for years, but I've finally decided to splash out on NV for the 223, who has what and how good is it? I want a minimum of 6x magnification, 8x if possible, and the ability to clearly see and identify a fox at 200 yards. The ability to Zero in daylight is essential, weight is not important, how do they handle headlights when in NV mode? Does it cause permanent damage? Eat more carrots bob and save your self a shed load of money . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted April 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Bob, BuyThe best you can afford, the most econical way of doing it it to buy a Starlight Archer - you can use it as a viewing monocular to spot your quarry and then attach it to the back of your normal day scope ( in seconds) to take the shot. we viewed foxes with it whilst over in Ireland at 450yrds - Jeff ( Grasshopper) uses one to great effect. http://www.starlightnv.co.uk/day-night/arc...vision-mo.shtml And at £1400 for a d grade gen 3, its worth every penny I've had a look at this, The Archer looks impossible to use, s'truth when fitted, the eye relief is at the rifle butt plate! The Longbow extends halfway up the butt. Do you have one of these? I don't mind having one rifle dedicated to a night sight, but I just can't see that the eye position would make these useable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Grasshopper uses the Archer - i have also used it The eye relif is a bit far back, but workable - if you set your scope futher forward with reach forward mounts etc, i think it would be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sphinx121 Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Check out the GB sights range i belive they hae just brought out a new dedicated digital NV. http://www.gbsights.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 push the boat out and buy a pilkington kite i have not looked through an add on but i know the kite will take some beating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyblanco Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Hey Bob, where abouts in essex are you? I'm 10 miles north of royston and have a gen2 xvd system on my .223, if its not too far we could arrange a meet to let you get an idea of what they are like. http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9175/guns106dw7.jpg I also have a friend that retails the stuff so he could maybe demo some units for you http://www.nightvisionsupplies.co.uk/ hope this might help ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted April 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 (edited) Grasshopper uses the Archer - i have also used itThe eye relif is a bit far back, but workable - if you set your scope futher forward with reach forward mounts etc, i think it would be ideal. I see your, point, but mounting the scope that far forward would make it unusable without the NV part on, for zeroing. bennyblanco; Just going out to down-load the dog, I will PM you when I return in an hour or so. "steyrman; push the boat out and buy a pilkington kite i have not looked through an add on but i know the kite will take some beating " So, do you actually own and use one of these? Edited April 15, 2008 by bob300w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 yes i do and as i said i have not looked through an add on so cannot comment on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 just a thought, my mentor has NV binos they dont mag they just allow you to see normal size with little or no light, must not be exposed to normal light or it screws them up, for lamp shy foxes he spots and squeaks and only uses the lamp for the shot, i have used them and they are very impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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