bignoel Posted July 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 bigger rifle was not a option because of the noise so stinggers where out of the question the shotshad to be quick and silent as they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 i did try its accuracy for the short range of 40 yards and you are wrong it was spot on ? In that case I suggest that you patent the idea and sell it to one of the big manufacturers, you have succeeded where they have failed for years, since 1857 in fact. I doff my cap to your superior knowledge over the research and developement departments of Remington, Winchester, Federal CCI, etc. etc. I await with baited breath to see your bullets on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted July 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 i took some one else 's advise dont try an be a smart ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 i could never be a smart **** ,to thick for that ,but honestly mate,dont mess with ammo,it ll kil good enough as it is,if it dont get a bigger rifle,or dont kill it,you could allways trap it and shoot at point blank range. not trying to upset,or wind you up mate,just dont want to read about you in paper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 No need to fix what isn't broken. Have killed foxes with Eley subs at 80 yards, brain shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 In the southern US, squirrel hunting is very popular. A few people/companies have created little gadgets that are designed to make a 22LR solid into the point of our choice. In the US there has never been as much choice in 22LR ammo that there is today. So, guys would take standard loads and shape the soft lead heads to their desired shape. Some would turn low speed solids into HP, some would flatten a solid to be more like a wadcutter. The point was to give good mushrooming without exploding the bullet so that you didn't waste any meat. Also, Winchester did a similar type of ammo around 1988-1992. It was a handgun bullet designed or maximum expansion called the black talon. It had 6 cuts across the top of a normal hollow point bullet. After some really bad press and a US supreme court case that singled them out, Winchester pulled them from the market and later replaced it with a similar design under a different name. Not sure how much the cuts across the top helped expansion, but I can't think that it hurt it since it was starting the process that a HP does on its own anyway. Thanks Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Have tried the crosscut method with Winnie subs & it worked for me OK to 60yds without accuracy problems.Also tried variations to hollow point as: paco tool http://www.leverguns.com/store/acurizer.htm but find standards work fine with accurate shot placement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 i have tried to explain to a few a bigger rifle a shotgun where not a option .and yes a fox trap was first option but customer wanted a quick result was not pateint enough to wait for a trapt fox .as stated i tried what i thought was good advise from a respect gunner on here when he mentionend cross cuts in bullit heads i didnt see this sort of reaction .. [one last time it was something i read on here and tried ] and it worked fine thanks peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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