Tel Time Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 i had a complaint yesterday, on a brand new shoot, from a resident in a nearby housing estate that said we were dropping shot on them, paced out at 420 to the edge of the road, 20 paces for the tree line, then a road, then another tree line, then around about 100 paces to the start of the houses, and we were firing away from them, looks like we will not be going back we were using 6.5 30gm plastic and fibre eleys. i was shooting with the farmers son when he got the phone call from mum and was horrified to think that we were the culprits, so does anyone have a link to safe distance's that should be applied that i could show the farmer so he knows that it was just someone getting a pissy on with us shooting and not actually shot landing on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 A difinitive test was done about a year ago of the maximum range of shot gun pellets . The result was that no 6 shot could not travel more than 280 metres under the most ideal conditions and no 7 shot could not travel more than 260 metres under the most ideal conditions . Clay shooting grounds now have to have a 300 metre safty zone . Hope that this is helpful to you . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 i had a complaint yesterday, on a brand new shoot, from a resident in a nearby housing estate that said we were dropping shot on them, paced out at 420 to the edge of the road, 20 paces for the tree line, then a road, then another tree line, then around about 100 paces to the start of the houses, and we were firing away from them, looks like we will not be going back we were using 6.5 30gm plastic and fibre eleys. i was shooting with the farmers son when he got the phone call from mum and was horrified to think that we were the culprits, so does anyone have a link to safe distance's that should be applied that i could show the farmer so he knows that it was just someone getting a pissy on with us shooting and not actually shot landing on them. Distances as Harnser says, but I don't see the problem. If you were firing away from the houses, why does the distance matter, and why bother to pace it out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel Time Posted July 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 it helps greatly, but i need an official print out to show the farmer that this was just some anti trying to flex his mouth, have been looking at the basc web site and cannot find anything to print off, it is bugging me so much that i have given up my days shooting to try and sort it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Tell time , I can only tell you that this test was published in the sporting gun about a year ago . If you contact them i am sure that they will send you a back copy for not to much money . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel Time Posted July 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 have been onto an american site and had this reply so here is the lowdown... this is the maximum range no. 2 - 330 yds no. 4 - 286 yds no. 6 - 242 yds no. 7 1/2- 209 yds no 8 - 198 yds the source is rangeinfo.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 If it helps... "The CPSA recommends that an Exclusion Zone of at least 275m (300 yards)" I guess that is for 28g of 6 ? The most you are allowed on clays ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2shots Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 We had a guy used to report us for the same, shot hitting the roof etc, he got an official warning off the police for wasting thier time when we set up a gas gun in the field behind his house and he called the police saying it was happening right now,for some reason we were never bothered again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 We had a guy used to report us for the same, shot hitting the roof etc,he got an official warning off the police for wasting thier time when we set up a gas gun in the field behind his house and he called the police saying it was happening right now,for some reason we were never bothered again. very clever! if you were firing away from the houses then how could you hit them? Would bet they were just making excuses to complain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel Time Posted July 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 i think this is the case here as well, having read the booklet " sporting shooting and the law" by david frost, from the national gamekeepers organisation, who i am insured with, page 43, as a rule of thumb the maximum range of a lead shot pellet can be calculated by taking the diameter in millimeters, multiplying it by 80 and expressing the result in meters, no 6 shot is 2.6 mm, times by 80 and that gives you 208 meters, so armed with this info i will be having a chat with the farmer on Monday and will let all know of the result, hopefully i will not get booted off this fantastic shoot due to an idiot with an anti attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 What was the weather like on the particular day of the complaint? The clay ground i shoot at, has all the stands facing away from the club house, if the conditions are right wind wise, its not uncommon for shot to be turned with the wind and shower the building, although the distance probably doesnt exceed 200 yards away from the building at any point.... So at over 400 you would be well safe...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 As a Clay Coach and Range safety Officer I can confirm that the template for a clay range is 275m range danger area and as quoted already the heaviest you can fire on a CPSA approved range is 28 grams of 6s I note you are firing 30g of 6.5 I would expect that this will go no further than the 28g of 6s and if it does it will only be by a small margin. Who ever it is is having you on or you have got little strides!! See if one of your mates has a LASER range finder. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel Time Posted July 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 lost it, i phoned the farmer today and he couldn't get me of the phone quick enough,well if he calls me and i was mistaken then i will eat my hat, but i do not live in hope, we will see, i also saw plod chatting to two other pairs of shooters and the farmer got a visit from the environmental people as well because some one was supposedly shooting at 4 am!! the moron that has been making complaints to everyone will ruin this for everyone that shoots this farm and cost this farmer a packet, the place is covered in pigeons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel Time Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 on reflection and having spoken to a few people it would have been a lot of hassle to keep this shoot, getting visited by plod, having idiots complain every time, just not worth the hassle i think, put it down to experience and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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